[gentoo-user] New Gnome Systemd Upgrade Question

[gentoo-user] New Gnome Systemd Upgrade Question

[Lee]

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Hi, I installed Gentoo a long time ago with the desktop/gnome profile set.
Now, I don't use gnome (i use fluxbox). However since I have the use tags,
many gnome libraries were pulled in over time.

Now, since the upgrade to gnome 3.8, Portage updates result in a conflict
because the gnome libs need systemd, which conflicts with udev.

Instead of making the switch to systemd, I decided to change my profile to
plain desktop (no gnome). Since I don't have gnome desktop, it was
relatively simple for the system to update itself.

My only questions are, will cups and hplip function in a 'gnomeless'
system, and are there any other gotchas to be aware of?

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Gnome Systemd Upgrade Question

[Alan McKinnon]

On 23/12/13 01:56, Lee wrote:
> Hi, I installed Gentoo a long time ago with the desktop/gnome profile
> set. Now, I don't use gnome (i use fluxbox). However since I have the
> use tags, many gnome libraries were pulled in over time.
> 
> Now, since the upgrade to gnome 3.8, Portage updates result in a
> conflict because the gnome libs need systemd, which conflicts with udev.
> 
> Instead of making the switch to systemd, I decided to change my profile
> to plain desktop (no gnome). Since I don't have gnome desktop, it was
> relatively simple for the system to update itself.
> 
> My only questions are, will cups and hplip function in a 'gnomeless'
> system, and are there any other gotchas to be aware of?
> 

printing will work regardless of whether you have gnome or not.
cups is what it is, it is not a gnome app.

I don't know of any gotchas with removing gnome (I usually call that a
feature with huge benefits...). All that a profile is, is a bunch of
pre-configured settings. It's a starting point and the contents of your
settings in /etc/portage modifies them. Portage will sort everything out
when you emerge -avuND world and give you what you need according to
your config

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] New Gnome Systemd Upgrade Question

[ny6p01]

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On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 02:07:06AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 23/12/13 01:56, Lee wrote:
> > Hi, I installed Gentoo a long time ago with the desktop/gnome profile
> > set. Now, I don't use gnome (i use fluxbox). However since I have the
> > use tags, many gnome libraries were pulled in over time.
> > 
> > Now, since the upgrade to gnome 3.8, Portage updates result in a
> > conflict because the gnome libs need systemd, which conflicts with udev.
> > 
> > Instead of making the switch to systemd, I decided to change my profile
> > to plain desktop (no gnome). Since I don't have gnome desktop, it was
> > relatively simple for the system to update itself.
> > 
> > My only questions are, will cups and hplip function in a 'gnomeless'
> > system, and are there any other gotchas to be aware of?
> > 
> 
> printing will work regardless of whether you have gnome or not.
> cups is what it is, it is not a gnome app.
> 
> I don't know of any gotchas with removing gnome (I usually call that a
> feature with huge benefits...). All that a profile is, is a bunch of
> pre-configured settings. It's a starting point and the contents of your
> settings in /etc/portage modifies them. Portage will sort everything out
> when you emerge -avuND world and give you what you need according to
> your config
> 

That's a relief! I didn't think the upgrade to systemd was worth the
trouble. 

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[gentoo-user] No trace of installed simpleagenda

[Gevisz]

I have emerged simpleagenda. Everything went on smoothly,
no errors or warnings appeared. emerge --search simpleagenda
shows that version 0.43 of the package is installed.

However, I cannot find it in any FXCE menus and there is
no simpleagenda command in shell. Moreover, there are no
simpleagenda folder in /usr/share/doc and no man page for it.

Application Finder also does not see it.

Does anybody know how one can start this extremely humble program?

Re: [gentoo-user] No trace of installed simpleagenda

[Jeremi Piotrowski]

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> Does anybody know how one can start > this extremely humble program

Use equery f simpleagenda to find files installed by this package (equery
is part of the gentoolkit package).
Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-user] No trace of installed simpleagenda

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 07:00:31 +0200, Gevisz wrote:

> However, I cannot find it in any FXCE menus and there is
> no simpleagenda command in shell. Moreover, there are no
> simpleagenda folder in /usr/share/doc and no man page for it.

qlist simpleagenda will show you what it installed where.

qlist is part of portage-utils, which you may well already have installed.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I have seen things you lusers would not believe.
I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab.
I've seen NTU lights glitter in the dark near the Mail Gate.
All these things will be lost in time, like the root partition last
week. Time to die.

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Re: [gentoo-user] No trace of installed simpleagenda

[gevisz]

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2013/12/23 Jeremi Piotrowski <jeremi.piotrowski@gmail.com>

> > Does anybody know how one can start > this extremely humble program
>
> Use equery f simpleagenda to find files installed by this package (equery
> is part of the gentoolkit package).
>
Thank you for the help. (Or you and Neil Bothwick, to be precise and
thankful. :-)

I found out that to start simpleagenda, I should type SimpleAgenda instead
of just simpleagenda

However, after this command, it shows only a one very small frame with a
digit 9 inside it and prints
the following error message:

$ SimpleAgenda
2013-12-23 18:01:11.694 SimpleAgenda[3800] Exception occured while loading
model: expected array

count 12 and got 201479017
2013-12-23 18:01:11.695 SimpleAgenda[3800] Failed to load Gorm
2013-12-23 18:01:11.696 SimpleAgenda[3800] Cannot load the main model file
'Agenda.gorm'

Does anybody use this humorous application and can explain what number 9 in
the frame
should mean at 6pm on December 23?

Of course, I do not expect anything from it any more but I am just curious.
:-)

Especially taking into account that, to emerge it, I had to recompile gcc
with objc use flag,
that took *a lot* of time. :-(

P.S. It seems to me that the application does not have any docs.

Does anybody have any ideas why it has been included in the main portage
tree?

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Re: [gentoo-user] No trace of installed simpleagenda

[Alan McKinnon]

On 23/12/13 07:00, Gevisz wrote:
> I have emerged simpleagenda. Everything went on smoothly,
> no errors or warnings appeared. emerge --search simpleagenda
> shows that version 0.43 of the package is installed.
> 
> However, I cannot find it in any FXCE menus and there is
> no simpleagenda command in shell. Moreover, there are no
> simpleagenda folder in /usr/share/doc and no man page for it.
> 
> Application Finder also does not see it.
> 
> Does anybody know how one can start this extremely humble program?
> 
> 
> 



Please don't hijack threads like this.

You replied to a thread with Subject "New Gnome Systemd Upgrade
Question" and changed the subject line. This badly breaks the display of
mails in mail apps that understand the "In-Reply-To" header.

To start a new thread, please do not edit an old one. Rather send a
brand new mail to gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com