[gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Alexander Kapshuk]

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https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade


      Sanitize sources

If you just want to rebuild the current kernel, you need sometimes to
sanitize the kernel sources:

|root # ||make distclean|

Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as well.
Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice given before
rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config file prior to
running 'make distclean'.

Lesson learnt. :'(


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Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[the]

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On 12/16/13 23:30, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
> Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as
> well. Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice
> given before rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config
> file prior to running 'make distclean'.
Thanks for the heads up.
Perhaps it's a good idea to include configuration in the binary.
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Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Alexander Kapshuk]

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On Dec 16, 2013 9:38 PM, "the" <the.guard@mail.ru> wrote:
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> On 12/16/13 23:30, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
> > Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as
> > well. Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice
> > given before rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config
> > file prior to running 'make distclean'.
> Thanks for the heads up.
> Perhaps it's a good idea to include configuration in the binary

Sounds like good advice. Thought of this as well afterwards.
Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Mick]

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On Monday 16 Dec 2013 19:57:30 Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2013 9:38 PM, "the" <the.guard@mail.ru> wrote:
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> > On 12/16/13 23:30, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
> > > Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as
> > > well. Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice
> > > given before rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config
> > > file prior to running 'make distclean'.
> > 
> > Thanks for the heads up.
> > Perhaps it's a good idea to include configuration in the binary
> 
> Sounds like good advice. Thought of this as well afterwards.
> Thanks.

Don't you save a copy of your kernel .config in /boot/ ?

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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Alexander Kapshuk]

On 12/16/2013 10:28 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Monday 16 Dec 2013 19:57:30 Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>> On Dec 16, 2013 9:38 PM, "the" <the.guard@mail.ru> wrote:
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>>> On 12/16/13 23:30, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>>>> Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as
>>>> well. Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice
>>>> given before rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config
>>>> file prior to running 'make distclean'.
>>> Thanks for the heads up.
>>> Perhaps it's a good idea to include configuration in the binary
>> Sounds like good advice. Thought of this as well afterwards.
>> Thanks.
> Don't you save a copy of your kernel .config in /boot/ ?
>
Apparently not.

Is this the recommended location for a backup copy of .conf?

Thanks.

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Alan McKinnon]

On 16/12/2013 22:39, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
> 
> On 12/16/2013 10:28 PM, Mick wrote:
>> On Monday 16 Dec 2013 19:57:30 Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>>> On Dec 16, 2013 9:38 PM, "the" <the.guard@mail.ru> wrote:
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>>>> On 12/16/13 23:30, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>>>>> Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as
>>>>> well. Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice
>>>>> given before rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config
>>>>> file prior to running 'make distclean'.
>>>> Thanks for the heads up.
>>>> Perhaps it's a good idea to include configuration in the binary
>>> Sounds like good advice. Thought of this as well afterwards.
>>> Thanks.
>> Don't you save a copy of your kernel .config in /boot/ ?
>>
> Apparently not.
> 
> Is this the recommended location for a backup copy of .conf?


It's what you get when you run make install in the kernel source dir.

If you install your kernel image manually, then you must remember to do
it yourself. There is no "recommended location" as such - any old place
is as good as any other place and the choice is really up to you, so a
recommendation is pointless.

But seeing as the kernel's Makefile makes a copy of the .config and
System.map in /boot, it makes sense to follow that established pattern.

Or you could just use make install


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Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Alexander Kapshuk]

So far, I've been building and installing my kernels manually, as
suggested in the handbook:
make && make modules_install
cp arch/x86/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-x.x.x-gentoo
Thanks for pointing out the 'make install' option. I'll give that a try.


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16/12/2013 22:39, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>>
>> On 12/16/2013 10:28 PM, Mick wrote:
>>> On Monday 16 Dec 2013 19:57:30 Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>>>> On Dec 16, 2013 9:38 PM, "the" <the.guard@mail.ru> wrote:
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>>>>> On 12/16/13 23:30, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>>>>>> Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as
>>>>>> well. Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice
>>>>>> given before rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config
>>>>>> file prior to running 'make distclean'.
>>>>> Thanks for the heads up.
>>>>> Perhaps it's a good idea to include configuration in the binary
>>>> Sounds like good advice. Thought of this as well afterwards.
>>>> Thanks.
>>> Don't you save a copy of your kernel .config in /boot/ ?
>>>
>> Apparently not.
>>
>> Is this the recommended location for a backup copy of .conf?
>
>
> It's what you get when you run make install in the kernel source dir.
>
> If you install your kernel image manually, then you must remember to do
> it yourself. There is no "recommended location" as such - any old place
> is as good as any other place and the choice is really up to you, so a
> recommendation is pointless.
>
> But seeing as the kernel's Makefile makes a copy of the .config and
> System.map in /boot, it makes sense to follow that established pattern.
>
> Or you could just use make install
>
>
> --
> Alan McKinnon
> alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:39:36 +0200, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

> > Don't you save a copy of your kernel .config in /boot/ ?
> >  
> Apparently not.
> 
How do you install the kernel? make install copies the config to /boot as
well as the kernel.


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Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Markos Chandras]

On 12/16/2013 07:30 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
> 
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade
> 
> 
>       Sanitize sources
> 
> If you just want to rebuild the current kernel, you need sometimes to
> sanitize the kernel sources:
> 
> |root # ||make distclean|
> 
> Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as well.
> Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice given before
> rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config file prior to
> running 'make distclean'.
> 
> Lesson learnt. :'(
> 
> 

You could get your running config using

zcat /proc/config.gz > .config

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Regards,
Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Bruce Hill]

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 08:57:08PM +0000, Markos Chandras wrote:
> 
> You could get your running config using
> 
> zcat /proc/config.gz > .config

Only if you enabled:
CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y
CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y
in your running kernel.
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[gentoo-user] Re: make distclean

[eroen]

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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:12:58 -0600
Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 08:57:08PM +0000, Markos Chandras wrote:
> > 
> > You could get your running config using
> > 
> > zcat /proc/config.gz > .config
> 
> Only if you enabled:
> CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y
> CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y
> in your running kernel.

If only CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y is enabled, you can still use the 
/usr/src/linux/scripts/extract-ikconfig script to extract the config
from an existing kernel image.

Regardless, enabling CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y makes things so much
simpler for everyone, with very little to speak against enabling it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday 16 Dec 2013 15:12:58 Bruce Hill wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 08:57:08PM +0000, Markos Chandras wrote:
> > You could get your running config using
> > 
> > zcat /proc/config.gz > .config
> 
> Only if you enabled:
> CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y
> CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y
> in your running kernel.

... and if you've rebooted with the new kernel. The OP said he'd only just 
finished setting it up.

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Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Alexander Kapshuk]

Thanks, but, as Bruce Hill pointed out, for your advice to work I'd
have to have the appropriate kernel options enabled, which I don't.
Thanks anyway.


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 12/16/2013 07:30 PM, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>>
>> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade
>>
>>
>>       Sanitize sources
>>
>> If you just want to rebuild the current kernel, you need sometimes to
>> sanitize the kernel sources:
>>
>> |root # ||make distclean|
>>
>> Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as well.
>> Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice given before
>> rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config file prior to
>> running 'make distclean'.
>>
>> Lesson learnt. :'(
>>
>>
>
> You could get your running config using
>
> zcat /proc/config.gz > .config
>
> --
> Regards,
> Markos Chandras
>

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Bruce Hill]

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 09:30:52PM +0200, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
> 
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade
> 
> 
>       Sanitize sources
> 
> If you just want to rebuild the current kernel, you need sometimes to
> sanitize the kernel sources:
> 
> |root # ||make distclean|
> 
> Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as well.
> Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice given before
> rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config file prior to
> running 'make distclean'.
> 
> Lesson learnt. :'(
 
There should be a .config in "/lib/modules/`uname -r`/source/.config" and if
you look under /lib/modules/ you should see a directory for each kernel
version you've installed with a .config.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Alexander Kapshuk]

So there's still some hope left, huh? :-).
Thanks a lot. I'll check it out.


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Bruce Hill
<daddy@happypenguincomputers.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 09:30:52PM +0200, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
>>
>> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade
>>
>>
>>       Sanitize sources
>>
>> If you just want to rebuild the current kernel, you need sometimes to
>> sanitize the kernel sources:
>>
>> |root # ||make distclean|
>>
>> Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as well.
>> Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice given before
>> rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config file prior to
>> running 'make distclean'.
>>
>> Lesson learnt. :'(
>
> There should be a .config in "/lib/modules/`uname -r`/source/.config" and if
> you look under /lib/modules/ you should see a directory for each kernel
> version you've installed with a .config.
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> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
>
> Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
>

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Thanasis]

on 12/16/2013 11:11 PM Bruce Hill wrote the following:
>  
> There should be a .config in "/lib/modules/`uname -r`/source/.config" and if
> you look under /lib/modules/ you should see a directory for each kernel
> version you've installed with a .config.
> 

In my system /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source
is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Bruce Hill]

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:34:14AM +0200, Thanasis wrote:
> 
> In my system /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source
> is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`

What does that guys sig say????

- List replies preferred.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Thanasis]

on 12/17/2013 05:24 PM Bruce Hill wrote the following:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:34:14AM +0200, Thanasis wrote:
>>
>> In my system /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source
>> is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`
> 
> What does that guys sig say????
> 
> - List replies preferred.
> 

My sig?
Where is that?

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Bruce Hill]

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 06:15:59PM +0200, Thanasis wrote:
> > 
> > What does that guys sig say????
> > 
> > - List replies preferred.
> > 
> 
> My sig?
> Where is that?

It was a soft hint, asking you to not CC me, I'm on the list. Hope you don't
get as offended as some other person.

Cheers,
Bruce
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting

Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Tom Wijsman]

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:41:47 -0600
Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 06:15:59PM +0200, Thanasis wrote:
> > > 
> > > What does that guys sig say????
> > > 
> > > - List replies preferred.
> > > 
> > 
> > My sig?
> > Where is that?
> 
> It was a soft hint, asking you to not CC me, I'm on the list. Hope
> you don't get as offended as some other person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith

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Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Bruce Hill]

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 06:48:33PM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > 
> > It was a soft hint, asking you to not CC me, I'm on the list. Hope
> > you don't get as offended as some other person.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ben/Assume_the_presence_of_a_belly-button
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting

"Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful (was: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean)

[Tom Wijsman]

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:24:58 -0600
Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com> wrote:

> From: Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com>
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean
> Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:34:14AM +0200, Thanasis wrote:
> > 
> > In my system /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source
> > is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`  
> 
> What does that guys sig say????
> 
> - List replies preferred.

Where does it say that? By whom?

Note that the typical way to indicate list replies is to make use of
the Reply-To: header; but because the mailing list administrators munge
this header, people will override this behavior to maintain standards.
Thus, the simple and safe assumption that the person is not subscribed.

Since the only sane way (reading the Reply-To header) to know whether
list replies are preferred by the user or not has now been overridden;
to maintain standards we send it to both e-mail addresses and we rely on
the receiver filtering out duplicate mails with the same message ID.

For that procmail rules exist, which can alternatively also filter
mails that simply list the mailing list in Cc: but not in From: header.

More reading material on this matter:

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html

Also note that signatures are often cut off when replying, some even
opt to cut it off on the procmail level; so, note that expectations in
a signature are often not met. I had to explicitly look it up for
example to see what is referred to. It's handy to look up your address,
but because of things like birds, it usually is truncated. (Nice bird!)

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> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> 
> Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting

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Re: "Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful (was: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean)

[Bruce Hill]

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 05:49:30PM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:24:58 -0600
> Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com>
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean
> > Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:34:14AM +0200, Thanasis wrote:
> > > 
> > > In my system /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source
> > > is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`  
> > 
> > What does that guys sig say????
> > 
> > - List replies preferred.
> 
> Where does it say that? By whom?

His name is Duncan, iirc.

> Thus, the simple and safe assumption that the person is not subscribed.

When we ass*u*me... Why not ass*u*me someone reads and replies because they're
subscribed to the list? And if not, they let you know:
CC me, I'm not on the list.  <-- canonical

You've beaten me up with your opinion and ass*u*mption before. Why hijack a
thread to do so again?
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting

Re: "Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful (was: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean)

[Tom Wijsman]

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On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 11:13:16 -0600
Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 05:49:30PM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:24:58 -0600
> > Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com>
> > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean
> > > Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:34:14AM +0200, Thanasis wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > In my system /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source
> > > > is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`  
> > > 
> > > What does that guys sig say????
> > > 
> > > - List replies preferred.
> > 
> > Where does it say that? By whom?
> 
> His name is Duncan, iirc.

Duncan is absent in this sub thread.

> > Thus, the simple and safe assumption that the person is not
> > subscribed.
> 
> When we ass*u*me... Why not ass*u*me someone reads and replies
> because they're subscribed to the list? And if not, they let you know:
> CC me, I'm not on the list.  <-- canonical

Because asking a question on a mailing list does not equal wanting to
receive everything else on that mailing list.

> You've beaten me up with your opinion and ass*u*mption before. Why
> hijack a thread to do so again?

You mean your off-topic response that I reply to? Can we get on-topic?

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Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Tom Wijsman]

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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:30:52 +0200
Alexander Kapshuk <alexander.kapshuk@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade
> 
> 
>       Sanitize sources
> 
> If you just want to rebuild the current kernel, you need sometimes to
> sanitize the kernel sources:
> 
> |root # ||make distclean|

This has now been updated to reflect this ML thread.

> Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as well.
> Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice given
> before rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config file
> prior to running 'make distclean'.
> 
> Lesson learnt. :'(

Yeah, you will only want to run this if you really need to run it; in
common, just starting from `make` after having done configuration
changes suffice. You only really need a distclean with a broken build.

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With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
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Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

[Alexander Kapshuk]

Thanks very much, Tom, for your prompt response and action taken.



On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:30:52 +0200
> Alexander Kapshuk <alexander.kapshuk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade
>>
>>
>>       Sanitize sources
>>
>> If you just want to rebuild the current kernel, you need sometimes to
>> sanitize the kernel sources:
>>
>> |root # ||make distclean|
>
> This has now been updated to reflect this ML thread.
>
>> Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as well.
>> Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice given
>> before rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config file
>> prior to running 'make distclean'.
>>
>> Lesson learnt. :'(
>
> Yeah, you will only want to run this if you really need to run it; in
> common, just starting from `make` after having done configuration
> changes suffice. You only really need a distclean with a broken build.
>
> --
> With kind regards,
>
> Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
> Gentoo Developer
>
> E-mail address  : TomWij@gentoo.org
> GPG Public Key  : 6D34E57D
> GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2  ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D