From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F271138247 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 22:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48577E0A81; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 22:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp102-3.vfemail.net (three.vfemail.net [108.76.175.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CAEAE0A65 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 22:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1892 invoked by uid 89); 5 Dec 2013 22:26:49 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 1856, pid: 1879, t: 0.9078s scanners:none Received: from unknown (HELO cemit.localdomain) (aHNAdmZlbWFpbC5uZXQ=@MTc4LjQxLjEzNC4yMjg=) by 172.16.100.62 with ESMTPA; 5 Dec 2013 22:26:48 -0000 Received: from amit.kihnet.sk (amit.kihnet.sk [192.168.10.100]) by cemit.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A9D040031 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 23:26:47 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 23:26:46 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-2?B?UvNiZXJ0IMhlcvJhbnNr/Q==?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd as drop-in replacement for udev? Message-ID: <20131205232646.2f8a11bc@amit.kihnet.sk> In-Reply-To: References: <20131205213650.01366054@amit.kihnet.sk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 05f2e074-3f0d-418f-b981-e5bea9c93d95 X-Archives-Hash: ab04a4519bc63ba6fe140ae87afc791b On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:18:54 -0600 Canek Pel=E1ez Vald=E9s wrote: > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:36 PM, R=F3bert =C8er=F2ansk=FD > wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I am currently updating my system and Portage wants to replace udev > > (204) with systemd (208). My question is (hopefully) simple: > > > > Can I use systemd as drop-in replacement for udev? In other words, > > can I pretend that systemd is udev and continue using OpenRC as > > with udev itself? I would then apply just udev 204 to 208 update > > instructions (http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade). > > > > I am using WindowMaker and systemd was pulled in by > > gnome-settings-daemon which in turn was pulled in by gdm. I would > > like to stick with gdm. >=20 > The GNOME stuff that requires systemd will not work under OpenRC from > 3.10 on, you could get strange fails with gdm and > gnome-settings-daemon. If it's gdm-3.8, then I think you can use > systemd as udev replacement together with OpenRC, and I believe some > people did it successfully. Thanks. I have enabled openrc-force use flag found this in gnome-settings-daemon emerge log, which confirms what you have said: "gnome-settings-daemon needs Systemd to be *running* for working properly. Please follow the this guide to migrate: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd You are enabling 'openrc-force' USE flag to skip systemd requirement, this can lead to unexpected problems and is not supported neither by upstream neither by Gnome Gentoo maintainers. If you suffer any problem, you will need to disable this USE flag system wide and retest before opening any bug report." So the it is clear to me now. I will try openrc-force as temporal solution until I'll find a new display manager and give heart breaking good by to GDM. Regards, Robert --=20 R=F3bert =C8er=F2ansk=FD E-mail: openhs@tightmail.com Jabber: hs@jabber.sk