From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE1A1387A6 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3B94E0A93; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD5C9E0A8A for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:30:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (66-208-231-133.ubr01a.rte20201.pa.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [66.208.231.133]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MDyul-1VR6YA0WFT-00HZqn; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 16:30:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 15:30:32 -0500 From: Bruce Hill To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience? Message-ID: <20131101203032.GC19591@server> References: <5267CB83.3000306@gentoo.org> <526C8B62.9040905@iinet.net.au> <8761scg9ao.fsf@nyu.edu> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8761scg9ao.fsf@nyu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:lfU7W0F8pJ9uq0kzDMFljMLk8zNlY7YG8+GKVrKecUQ GPnoiCscH8FN4FDfqvqw70e5JPZJCJcn7d+/1qMfYxz9ohDi67 4IuMTsX8jtqdW7oMiK4rxCYcdq1Mb1TeEk/dQr7+kbUbvel4UN sVopJYe77Y7ZyWpyDhksrZt9MqeCerlalyHTUgPRfWbakwN14f aqWfgFccwQ5lLORygaDEBaCg7eC1D2VZ4J9I24k1dzA928pE+z Ui7a3H6FT6vReuRE4NV8tdLaQdH1bwHW08fQVm/6fVjV4YD51l XAuqIxUOlJ5UJAfqB4R57JfXOEteZ2lCIwzt+5MGuO8EmbMDBD s1WgpSlIbeom7zk7XFak= X-Archives-Salt: 027e793a-8a9b-4b34-9a99-1d34298504e4 X-Archives-Hash: de68125ce47b3475501a1dcf2f769deb On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:11:59PM -0400, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27 2013, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > Making things "just work" is complex when trying to juggle 6 or more > > supported versions/implementations of python. > > Indeed. > > > We have tried to explain the magic make.conf lines in the Python user guide. > > > > https://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/Python/python-r1/user-guide.xml > > > > We also try to make sure that most users never have to touch > > PYTHON_TARGETS, etc; the default values provided by your profile are > > set up to allow *stable* python2.7 and python3.2 to work properly. > > > ~arch users are expected to read the docs. ^_^ > > I am a ~amd64 user and I just read the user-guide. :-) > I do not see any action items for my system; but do see a large number > of reinstalls proposed by emerge > > I do not change any python variables in make.conf so emerge --info shows > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" > PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_2" > > a recursive grep -i for python in /etc/portage yields only > ./package.use/imaging-pillow:5:virtual/python-imaging -python_targets_python3_2 > > So I basically have the default except for the imaging/pillow business. > > I note that update world wants to rebuild a bunch of packages (the > entire output is below). Some are qt-related others involve > PYTHON_TARGETS. > > Does this mean that I can let the 44 packages / 38 reinstalls update occur > and expect a running system to result? It is unusual, but I realize not > unprecedented, to have so many reinstalls and I would like to confirm > that this is expected. I don't remember seeing your emerge output; but if this has to do with pyton-exec you're not in the boat alone ... it is terribly fubared atm. -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ support@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting