[gentoo-user] Video card with two ports.

[gentoo-user] Video card with two ports.

[Dale]

Howdy,

Quick question.  I have a Nvidia GeForce GT 220 video card.  It has a
VGA and a HDMI connection.  My question, if I hook a monitor to each
port, they will both have the same pic right?  Also, I have not hooked
anything to the HDMI port yet, does it "just work" or do I have to set
something for it to work in xorg.conf or something. 

From what I have found on google, the first question is that both will
be the same.  I'm not sure on the second question. 

Thanks.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video card with two ports.

[Walter Dnes]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 09:32:54PM -0500, Dale wrote
> Howdy,
> 
> Quick question.  I have a Nvidia GeForce GT 220 video card.  It has a
> VGA and a HDMI connection.  My question, if I hook a monitor to each
> port, they will both have the same pic right?  Also, I have not hooked
> anything to the HDMI port yet, does it "just work" or do I have to set
> something for it to work in xorg.conf or something. 

  But why would you want identical images?  Google Xinerama.  See
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo (yeah it's Ubuntu), for
how to get a B-I-I-I-I-G two-screen-wide desktop.  Note that the
specific numbers (resolution and vert and horiz frequencies) will depend
on your monitors and card.  Do *NOT* copy them verbatim.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video card with two ports.

[Dale]

Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 09:32:54PM -0500, Dale wrote
>> Howdy,
>>
>> Quick question.  I have a Nvidia GeForce GT 220 video card.  It has a
>> VGA and a HDMI connection.  My question, if I hook a monitor to each
>> port, they will both have the same pic right?  Also, I have not hooked
>> anything to the HDMI port yet, does it "just work" or do I have to set
>> something for it to work in xorg.conf or something. 
>   But why would you want identical images?  Google Xinerama.  See
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo (yeah it's Ubuntu), for
> how to get a B-I-I-I-I-G two-screen-wide desktop.  Note that the
> specific numbers (resolution and vert and horiz frequencies) will depend
> on your monitors and card.  Do *NOT* copy them verbatim.
>

So this little card CAN have different images on each port?  That would
be cool.  I was just going to hook my puter to the TV so that I could
watch some videos on the TV.  My TV is HD.  My 20 year old TV just got
tired and got all weird.  It wasn't worth fixing either.  Heck, I save
enough on the light bill to pay for this new one. 

This could be neat.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Grant Edwards]

On 2013-10-30, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 09:32:54PM -0500, Dale wrote
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> Quick question.  I have a Nvidia GeForce GT 220 video card.  It has a
>> VGA and a HDMI connection.  My question, if I hook a monitor to each
>> port, they will both have the same pic right?  Also, I have not hooked
>> anything to the HDMI port yet, does it "just work" or do I have to set
>> something for it to work in xorg.conf or something. 
>
> But why would you want identical images?  Google Xinerama.  See
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo (yeah it's Ubuntu),
> for how to get a B-I-I-I-I-G two-screen-wide desktop.

Or you can have a different desktop on each monitor. [I find that more
useful than have a single big desktop that spans multiple monitors.]
That's done by simply configuring separate X displays.  I prefer to
edit my xorg.conf to do that, but you can also use xrandr to configure
multiple displays.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:03:34 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:

> > But why would you want identical images?  Google Xinerama.  See
> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo (yeah it's Ubuntu),
> > for how to get a B-I-I-I-I-G two-screen-wide desktop.  
> 
> Or you can have a different desktop on each monitor. [I find that more
> useful than have a single big desktop that spans multiple monitors.]
> That's done by simply configuring separate X displays.  I prefer to
> edit my xorg.conf to do that, but you can also use xrandr to configure
> multiple displays.

I think Dale still uses KDE, in which case it can be handled by the KDE
System Settings options.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Dale]

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Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 16:03:34 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>>> But why would you want identical images?  Google Xinerama.  See
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo (yeah it's Ubuntu),
>>> for how to get a B-I-I-I-I-G two-screen-wide desktop. 
>>
>> Or you can have a different desktop on each monitor. [I find that more
>> useful than have a single big desktop that spans multiple monitors.]
>> That's done by simply configuring separate X displays.  I prefer to
>> edit my xorg.conf to do that, but you can also use xrandr to configure
>> multiple displays.
>
> I think Dale still uses KDE, in which case it can be handled by the KDE
> System Settings options.
>
>

I do use KDE with Fluxbox as a backup..  I want to get another monitor
but just not right now.  I want one that I can flip 90 degrees so that
it is tall instead of wide but only want Firefox to run on that. 
That'll have to wait for now.  Right now, I just wanted to see about
watching videos on my TV instead of my puter screen.  My chair ain't
that comfy.  lol  I caught a cable that will reach on sale for like 60%
off and I couldn't pass it up.  I just didn't realize that this card
could run two displays with different content.  I figured what was on
one would be on the other.

In the long run, this could be really nice.  I gave that card a good
dust bunny eviction when I had to swap mobos.  It's a nice little card. 
It does really good for my simple stuff.

Thanks all.  When the cable comes in, I'll check into what comes next.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Walter Dnes]

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:52:00PM -0500, Dale wrote

> I do use KDE with Fluxbox as a backup..  I want to get another monitor
> but just not right now.  I want one that I can flip 90 degrees so that
> it is tall instead of wide but only want Firefox to run on that.

  I run 2 browsers, 960x1080 side-by-each, on a 1920x1080 display.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Bruce Hill]

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 09:14:30PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> 
>   I run 2 browsers, 960x1080 side-by-each, on a 1920x1080 display.

What size is that screen? Can you attach a screen shot? I have 1920x1080 on
everything but this laptop (1440x900), and use 23" screens at work. Still, I
just can't seem to like any setup with more than one thing on the screen at a
time. My desktop has GKrellM with width 100 on the right hand side.

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Walter Dnes]

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On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 09:07:21PM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 09:14:30PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> > 
> >   I run 2 browsers, 960x1080 side-by-each, on a 1920x1080 display.
> 
> What size is that screen? Can you attach a screen shot? I have 1920x1080 on
> everything but this laptop (1440x900), and use 23" screens at work. Still, I
> just can't seem to like any setup with more than one thing on the screen at a
> time. My desktop has GKrellM with width 100 on the right hand side.

  It's a 24" monitor.  Screenshot attached.  I'm migrating over to UZBL
as my web browser, if you wonder why it looks unfamiliar.  As per my
sig, I don't use a fancy DE.  I use ICEWM.  One nice feature is the
menu+launch bar which only pops up when I bring the mouse pointer to the
bottom of the screen.  The rest of the time it stays out of the way.  I
also have multiple workspaces, and keep related stuff open in their own
workspaces.

  Maybe what you're looking for is a "different type of 1440 monitor",
namely a 27" 2560x1440 display.  Drool.  Available from $600 and up at
Best Buy here in Toronto.  Probably significantly cheaper in the USA.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Bruce Hill]

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 03:13:37AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> > 
> > What size is that screen? Can you attach a screen shot? I have 1920x1080 on
> > everything but this laptop (1440x900), and use 23" screens at work. Still, I
> > just can't seem to like any setup with more than one thing on the screen at a
> > time. My desktop has GKrellM with width 100 on the right hand side.
> 
>   It's a 24" monitor.  Screenshot attached.  I'm migrating over to UZBL
> as my web browser, if you wonder why it looks unfamiliar.  As per my
> sig, I don't use a fancy DE.  I use ICEWM.  One nice feature is the
> menu+launch bar which only pops up when I bring the mouse pointer to the
> bottom of the screen.  The rest of the time it stays out of the way.  I
> also have multiple workspaces, and keep related stuff open in their own
> workspaces.
> 
>   Maybe what you're looking for is a "different type of 1440 monitor",
> namely a 27" 2560x1440 display.  Drool.  Available from $600 and up at
> Best Buy here in Toronto.  Probably significantly cheaper in the USA.

Thanks for the screenshot.

I use Fluxbox on all comps except this laptop, where Xfce4 has been a test to
see if it's a DE that I could support for people migrating from Windows. The
Linux DEs are really quite poor in quality compared to Windows.

For my own workstation, urxvt with tabs is my main app. For years now I've had
irssi running in one of it's tabs, but now I'm wanting to see it at the same
time as wherever else I'm working. To achieve that, irssi needs to come out of
that urvxt instance, and I haven't decided how I want to do that yet.

Today 1920x1080 on a 23" screen still doesn't look like a large working
environment. Maybe if I'd never had greater resolution on 17" and 19" CRTs,
and come from 1024x768 on a 15" LCD, I'd think it HUGE. Part of the issue is
that I've gotten used to using apps open fullscreen (sans GKrellM) on this
size desktop, so whenever I put two apps side-by-side something gets lost. I'm
sure in time it would grow on me, just as I've now, in the last year or less,
gotten okay with using a second workspace (first time in 10 years with
Fluxbox). It's exclusively for Teamviewer, though.

As for a 27" 2560x1440 display for $600 ... cold day in Hades comes to mind.
IMO $200 is _very_expensive_ for a computer monitor, unless you're doing high
end graphics work in Adobe products for commercial printing and need color
calibration. But then, you'd not be using a Linux OS for that.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Walter Dnes]

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 07:31:04AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote

> Today 1920x1080 on a 23" screen still doesn't look like a large
> working environment. Maybe if I'd never had greater resolution on
> 17" and 19" CRTs, and come from 1024x768 on a 15" LCD, I'd think
> it HUGE. Part of the issue is that I've gotten used to using apps
> open fullscreen (sans GKrellM) on this size desktop, so whenever
> I put two apps side-by-side something gets lost. I'm sure in time
> it would grow on me, just as I've now, in the last year or less,
> gotten okay with using a second workspace (first time in 10 years
> with Fluxbox). It's exclusively for Teamviewer, though.

  I doggedly stuck with one workspace, until the running-programs tabs
on the launchpad became ridiculously crowded.  Then I went to the
opposite extreme, and now have 11 workspaces.  Each workspace has
related stuff open in it.

> As for a 27" 2560x1440 display for $600 ... cold day in Hades comes
> to mind.  IMO $200 is _very_expensive_ for a computer monitor,
> unless you're doing high end graphics work in Adobe products for
> commercial printing and need color calibration. But then, you'd not
> be using a Linux OS for that.

  Give it a year or 2, and the price will come down.  Back in my more
foolish days, in a previous century, I paid over $1,000 (including tax)
for a 19" NEC MultiSync 95 CRT monitor and it still works today.  See
http://www.cueproductions.com/forsale/NECMultiSync.html
http://lahore.saintclassified.pk/nec-multisync-95-19-crt-monitor-conditon-good-ad-390941

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Dale]

Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:52:00PM -0500, Dale wrote
>
>> I do use KDE with Fluxbox as a backup..  I want to get another monitor
>> but just not right now.  I want one that I can flip 90 degrees so that
>> it is tall instead of wide but only want Firefox to run on that.
>   I run 2 browsers, 960x1080 side-by-each, on a 1920x1080 display.
>

Right now, I have a 22 inch monitor that I caught on sale.  It's the
wide type thing.  Anyway, I have firefox taking up most of the space but
also have pidgin tucked on the right side.  When I can get me a 2nd
monitor, I'll stick Firefox on the 2nd one that is turned to be tall. 
I'll keep everything else where it is.  Right now, I'll just use the 2nd
one to play videos and such on my TV. 

This is going to work out really nice it seems. 

Thanks much.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Dale]

Well, I got the cable in.  I hooked it up, nothing. Hmmmm.  Then I
turned around to look at my regular monitor and KDE had a pop up about a
new video device.  Oh really.  I clicked to set it up and now I have a
picture.  No sound tho.  I can't watch videos with no sound.  I'll need
to work on that.  ;-)

I just hope this cable is going to be long enough after I run it under
the floor.  I think it will but it's going to be close. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[J. Roeleveld]

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Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Well, I got the cable in.  I hooked it up, nothing. Hmmmm.  Then I
>turned around to look at my regular monitor and KDE had a pop up about
>a
>new video device.  Oh really.  I clicked to set it up and now I have a
>picture.  No sound tho.  I can't watch videos with no sound.  I'll need
>to work on that.  ;-)
>
>I just hope this cable is going to be long enough after I run it under
>the floor.  I think it will but it's going to be close. 
>
>Dale
>
>:-)  :-) 
>
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Do you get sound out of the speakers connected to the computer directly?

If you do, but not from the TV then you have 2 options:
1) connect an audio cable to the tv. (My tv has that option. Not all do though)
2) you figure out how to send sound through the cable between the videocard and tv. For that, I would have a look into sound drivers for the audio in the card (if it has a sound device) and also in alsa (or similar) mixer settings.

FYI, the only time I hooked up a PC to my TV it was with a VGA cable and simple audio cable.
Back then, I didn't have HDMI outputs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Dale]

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J. Roeleveld wrote:
> Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Well, I got the cable in.  I hooked it up, nothing. Hmmmm.  Then I
>     turned around to look at my regular monitor and KDE had a pop up about a
>     new video device.  Oh really.  I clicked to set it up and now I have a
>     picture.  No sound tho.  I can't watch videos with no sound.  I'll need
>     to work on that.  ;-)
>
>     I just hope this cable is going to be long enough after I run it under
>     the floor.  I think it will but it's going to be close. 
>
>     Dale
>
>     :-)  :-) 
>
>
> Do you get sound out of the speakers connected to the computer directly?
>
> If you do, but not from the TV then you have 2 options:
> 1) connect an audio cable to the tv. (My tv has that option. Not all
> do though)
> 2) you figure out how to send sound through the cable between the
> videocard and tv. For that, I would have a look into sound drivers for
> the audio in the card (if it has a sound device) and also in alsa (or
> similar) mixer settings.
>
> FYI, the only time I hooked up a PC to my TV it was with a VGA cable
> and simple audio cable.
> Back then, I didn't have HDMI outputs.
>
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I figured it out.  I found a wiki and found out that the sound can get
there just fine on the command line but it didn't with smplayer.  So I
went hmmmm.  Then I recalled seeing a tab for audio in preferences for
smplayer.  I dived right in.  What I have to do is tell smplayer where
to send the sound.  I can tell it to send it to the speakers hooked to
the puter or tell it to send it to the TV.  No setting that I can find
for it to just send to both.  Maybe there is a OS seting for this
somewhere.  I dunno. Now that I know where to set this, it's no big deal
to just change it based on what I am going to listen too.

Oh, while testing the sound, I found out I have my puter speakers
backwords.  My left speaker claims to be right and the right speaker
claims to be left.  It's been that way for many years now.  LOL   Could
that be why I am so weird??  ;-)

I'm going to do some price checking on monitors.  I may try to get one
that is a little higher res if I can.  Anyway, I still need to check
into some things. The edges of the screen on my TV is cut off.  It's not
much but just enough that it will cause issues if I try to do some
things on the TV.  While in the KDE control center thingy, it had a
setting for the new screen to be left/right/top/bottom so it sounds like
my video card will support having two monitors with different images. 
Right now, I set it to clone tho.  That's what I want right now. 

Thanks to all. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 05:33:34 -0500, Dale wrote:

> Oh, while testing the sound, I found out I have my puter speakers
> backwords.  My left speaker claims to be right and the right speaker
> claims to be left. 

That's side to side, not backwards :P

> It's been that way for many years now.  LOL   Could
> that be why I am so weird??  ;-)

I susect that has a more fundamental cause ;-)
 
> I'm going to do some price checking on monitors.  I may try to get one
> that is a little higher res if I can.  Anyway, I still need to check
> into some things. The edges of the screen on my TV is cut off.  It's not
> much but just enough that it will cause issues if I try to do some
> things on the TV.  While in the KDE control center thingy, it had a
> setting for the new screen to be left/right/top/bottom so it sounds like
> my video card will support having two monitors with different images. 

It will, I've been using KDE with different resolution monitors
(1600x1200 and 1650X180) for several years. And you can often specify
which screen a program uses (or force the issue in KDE's window settings)
so you can have your browser default to the monitors and you video player
use the TV by default, But drag the windows across if you ever want them
on the other display.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 05:33:34AM -0500, Dale wrote:

> Anyway, I still need to check into some things. The edges of the
> screen on my TV is cut off.  It's not much but just enough that it
> will cause issues if I try to do some things on the TV.

I have the very same thing with a very old Radeon X200SE in an old PC
that I got from a company write-off.
Video ouput (via VGA) was skewed to one side, so I called the monitor’s
auto-adjust to compensate. Then I installed Windows for some gaming and
lo, this time the output was skewed to the other side. So the monitor
was alright, instead the card was misconfigured. While the graphics
driver for Windows has a neat graphical tool to configure this offset, I
(currently) don't know of an equivalent in Linux country.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Dale]

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Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 05:33:34AM -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> Anyway, I still need to check into some things. The edges of the
>> screen on my TV is cut off.  It's not much but just enough that it
>> will cause issues if I try to do some things on the TV.
>
> I have the very same thing with a very old Radeon X200SE in an old PC
> that I got from a company write-off.
> Video ouput (via VGA) was skewed to one side, so I called the monitor’s
> auto-adjust to compensate. Then I installed Windows for some gaming and
> lo, this time the output was skewed to the other side. So the monitor
> was alright, instead the card was misconfigured. While the graphics
> driver for Windows has a neat graphical tool to configure this offset, I
> (currently) don't know of an equivalent in Linux country.
>

Mine isn't skewed to one side, it's just a fraction to large.  It seems
to be cut off by a few pixels all the way around.  Watching a movie tho,
no problem.  Using it for a puter monitor tho, slight issue.  To give a
bit of a idea, about 1/3 of the clock on the little panel thing at the
bottom is cut off.  The little K menu thing is missing about the same on
both bottom and left side.  You can see it but it just isn't all there
like on my puter monitor.

Since I don't really plan to use it for a monitor, it's no biggie.  I
figure it could be that they just put to much plastic around the display
itself.  Sort of covered up to much of the screen.

For now, it'll work fine tho.  I may figure on it some but not going to
worry about it to much.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Daniel Frey]

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On Nov 7, 2013 9:47 PM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mine isn't skewed to one side, it's just a fraction to large.  It seems
to be cut off by a few pixels all the way around.  Watching a movie tho, no
problem.  Using it for a puter monitor tho, slight issue.  To give a bit of
a idea, about 1/3 of the clock on the little panel thing at the bottom is
cut off.  The little K menu thing is missing about the same on both bottom
and left side.  You can see it but it just isn't all there like on my puter
monitor.
>
> Since I don't really plan to use it for a monitor, it's no biggie.  I
figure it could be that they just put to much plastic around the display
itself.  Sort of covered up to much of the screen.
>

Dale,

I am assuming this is a TV? All TVs apply overscan to inputs and that is
what you are seeing.

Most TVs made in the last five years have a way to turn that off, but it
varies. On my Samsung, I have to use the dvi/HDMI input and set the input
label to dvi/PC and overscan is then turned off for that input. It is
buried in the menu options but it doesn't explain what it does.

I have several mythtv frontends and found this solution about four years
ago when I replaced my living room TV.

Dan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Dale]

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Daniel Frey wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 7, 2013 9:47 PM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > Mine isn't skewed to one side, it's just a fraction to large.  It
> seems to be cut off by a few pixels all the way around.  Watching a
> movie tho, no problem.  Using it for a puter monitor tho, slight
> issue.  To give a bit of a idea, about 1/3 of the clock on the little
> panel thing at the bottom is cut off.  The little K menu thing is
> missing about the same on both bottom and left side.  You can see it
> but it just isn't all there like on my puter monitor.
> >
> > Since I don't really plan to use it for a monitor, it's no biggie. 
> I figure it could be that they just put to much plastic around the
> display itself.  Sort of covered up to much of the screen.
> >
>
> Dale,
>
> I am assuming this is a TV? All TVs apply overscan to inputs and that
> is what you are seeing.
>
> Most TVs made in the last five years have a way to turn that off, but
> it varies. On my Samsung, I have to use the dvi/HDMI input and set the
> input label to dvi/PC and overscan is then turned off for that input.
> It is buried in the menu options but it doesn't explain what it does.
>
> I have several mythtv frontends and found this solution about four
> years ago when I replaced my living room TV.
>
> Dan
>


And a quick google tells how to do this on my TV.  I'll have to test
later tho.  I unhooked the cable the other day.  I need to run it under
the floor so I don't trip over that monster. 

Thanks for the info tho.  That helped. 

Dale

:-)  :-)  

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[gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Grant Edwards]

On 2013-11-08, Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am assuming this is a TV? All TVs apply overscan to inputs and that
> is what you are seeing.

FWIW, the history of overscan (why it existed in CRT-based TVs and why
it was kept when they switched to Plasma/LCD) is rather interesting:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overscan


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Yohan Pereira]

On 01/11/13 at 07:43pm, Dale wrote:
> 
> Well, I got the cable in.  I hooked it up, nothing. Hmmmm.  Then I
> turned around to look at my regular monitor and KDE had a pop up about a
> new video device.  Oh really.  I clicked to set it up and now I have a
> picture.  No sound tho.  I can't watch videos with no sound.  I'll need
> to work on that.  ;-)
> 
> I just hope this cable is going to be long enough after I run it under
> the floor.  I think it will but it's going to be close. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 
> -- 
> I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Hi Dale,

  Try playing around with the settings in 
System Settings -> multimedia -> Audio and Video -> Audio Hardware Setup
Basically you need to tell it to send the audio over HDMI instead of over
the standard audio port.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 07:43:54PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> 
> Well, I got the cable in.  I hooked it up, nothing. Hmmmm.  Then I
> turned around to look at my regular monitor and KDE had a pop up about a
> new video device.  Oh really.  I clicked to set it up and now I have a
> picture.  No sound tho.  I can't watch videos with no sound.  I'll need
> to work on that.  ;-)
> 
> I just hope this cable is going to be long enough after I run it under
> the floor.  I think it will but it's going to be close. 
> 
> Dale

KDE, phonon in particular, provides for routing the sound to different
devices. Go to System Settings → Multimedia, it should list both your
alsa and HDMI output. You can then change the order of priority for the
devices. If you now use a phonon-able media player, it will use the
output in the order you set there.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video card with two ports.

[Alan McKinnon]

On 30/10/2013 04:32, Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> Quick question.  I have a Nvidia GeForce GT 220 video card.  It has a
> VGA and a HDMI connection.  My question, if I hook a monitor to each
> port, they will both have the same pic right?  

Depends on the card.

It might have two "processors"[1], one for each output then it will be
dual-head and you can have different output to each.

Or it might have one "processor" and two outputs coming from the same
place. That's the same picture on both, call this dual-screen if you will.

ignore what Google says. Read the actual nVidia spec sheet, that tells
you what you really have.



> Also, I have not hooked
> anything to the HDMI port yet, does it "just work" or do I have to set
> something for it to work in xorg.conf or something.

Modern xorg is a case of plug it in and it works. I suppose you *could*
configure things so that the output becomes disabled, but that would be
a really thick thing to do, and I've yet to find anyone who did it :-)

> 
> From what I have found on google, the first question is that both will
> be the same.  I'm not sure on the second question. 


[1] for lack of a better word :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video card with two ports.

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 02:40:15PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> On 30/10/2013 04:32, Dale wrote:
> > Howdy,
> > 
> > Quick question.  I have a Nvidia GeForce GT 220 video card.  It has a
> > VGA and a HDMI connection.  My question, if I hook a monitor to each
> > port, they will both have the same pic right?  
> 
> Depends on the card.
> 
> It might have two "processors"[1], one for each output then it will be
> dual-head and you can have different output to each.
> 
> Or it might have one "processor" and two outputs coming from the same
> place. That's the same picture on both, call this dual-screen if you will.
> 
> ignore what Google says. Read the actual nVidia spec sheet, that tells
> you what you really have.

Well, even the teensie bitty graphics inside my netbook can manage two
separate screens between which windows can be moved around, albeit with
limited pixel count (1400x1050 is the maximum for external monitor).
I can't imagine there's anything weaker on the graphics market these
days than an Atom IGP from a few years ago.

That's within a single xorg session though, I never tried separate xorgs
per output.

$ xrandr --output LVDS --auto --primary --output VGA --left-of LVDS --auto
would give me two screens, the primary on the internal screen and on the
VGA output the second one which is logically placed left of the internal
picture.
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