* [gentoo-user] xorg-server update puzzle
@ 2013-10-09 3:46 Philip Webb
2013-10-09 5:45 ` Khumba
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From: Philip Webb @ 2013-10-09 3:46 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Gentoo User
A few days ago, I upgraded to xorg-server-1.14.3 with a lot of deps.
Everything seems to be working normally since then,
but a lot of pkgs became unneeded, according to 'emerge -cpv', ie
131005 x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.6 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
131005 x11-apps/sessreg-1.0.7 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
131005 x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
131005 x11-apps/xkill-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
131005 x11-apps/xlsclients-1.1.2 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
131005 x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.5 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
131005 x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.4 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
131005 x11-apps/xvinfo-1.1.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
131005 x11-libs/libXp-1.0.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
131005 x11-libs/libXvMC-1.0.7 [for nvidia-drivers]
131005 x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.4 [for mesa : otiose]
131005 x11-proto/printproto-1.0.5 [for xorg-x11 LO : otiose]
(from my home-made list of installed + removed pkgs).
Presumably, these have all been absorbed into other Xorg pgms.
Is this correct ?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server update puzzle
2013-10-09 3:46 [gentoo-user] xorg-server update puzzle Philip Webb
@ 2013-10-09 5:45 ` Khumba
2013-10-09 12:13 ` Philip Webb
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From: Khumba @ 2013-10-09 5:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 23:46:25 -0400
Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:
> A few days ago, I upgraded to xorg-server-1.14.3 with a lot of deps.
> Everything seems to be working normally since then,
> but a lot of pkgs became unneeded, according to 'emerge -cpv', ie
>
> 131005 x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.6 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> 131005 x11-apps/sessreg-1.0.7 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> 131005 x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> 131005 x11-apps/xkill-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> 131005 x11-apps/xlsclients-1.1.2 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> 131005 x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.5 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> 131005 x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.4 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> 131005 x11-apps/xvinfo-1.1.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> 131005 x11-libs/libXp-1.0.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> 131005 x11-libs/libXvMC-1.0.7 [for nvidia-drivers]
> 131005 x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.4 [for mesa : otiose]
> 131005 x11-proto/printproto-1.0.5 [for xorg-x11 LO : otiose]
>
> (from my home-made list of installed + removed pkgs).
>
> Presumably, these have all been absorbed into other Xorg pgms.
> Is this correct ?
x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r1 here. I still have those packages;
they're pulled in by x11-base/xorg-x11, which is the main Xorg
meta-package that pulls in xorg-server. As for whether you need them,
I think that's your call. I haven't tried xorg-server without xorg-x11
in a while, but lots of those utilities are useful (xkill, xrandr...).
Cheers,
Khumba
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* Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server update puzzle
2013-10-09 5:45 ` Khumba
@ 2013-10-09 12:13 ` Philip Webb
2013-10-09 12:18 ` Helmut Jarausch
2013-10-09 17:36 ` Neil Bothwick
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Philip Webb @ 2013-10-09 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
131008 Khumba wrote:
> 131008 Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:
>> A few days ago, I upgraded to xorg-server-1.14.3 with a lot of deps.
>> Everything seems to be working normally since then,
>> but a lot of pkgs became unneeded, according to 'emerge -cpv', ie
>> 131005 x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.6 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
>> 131005 x11-apps/sessreg-1.0.7 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
>> 131005 x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
>> 131005 x11-apps/xkill-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
>> 131005 x11-apps/xlsclients-1.1.2 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
>> 131005 x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.5 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
>> 131005 x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.4 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
>> 131005 x11-apps/xvinfo-1.1.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
>> 131005 x11-libs/libXp-1.0.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
>> 131005 x11-libs/libXvMC-1.0.7 [for nvidia-drivers]
>> 131005 x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.4 [for mesa : otiose]
>> 131005 x11-proto/printproto-1.0.5 [for xorg-x11 LO : otiose]
>> Presumably, these have all been absorbed into other Xorg pgms.
> x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r1 here.
> I still have those packages; they're pulled in by x11-base/xorg-x11,
> which is the main Xorg meta-package that pulls in xorg-server.
Yes : I install them individually & don't use the meta.
> As for whether you need them, I think that's your call.
> I haven't tried xorg-server without xorg-x11 in a while,
> but lots of those utilities are useful : xkill, xrandr ... .
What are they useful for ? -- I can't do 'man' as they're not installed
& 'eix' simply shows the same URL for each ; is there anywhere I can look ?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server update puzzle
2013-10-09 12:13 ` Philip Webb
@ 2013-10-09 12:18 ` Helmut Jarausch
2013-10-09 17:36 ` Neil Bothwick
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Helmut Jarausch @ 2013-10-09 12:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 10/09/2013 02:13:41 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
> 131008 Khumba wrote:
> > 131008 Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:
> >> A few days ago, I upgraded to xorg-server-1.14.3 with a lot of
> deps.
> >> Everything seems to be working normally since then,
> >> but a lot of pkgs became unneeded, according to 'emerge -cpv', ie
> >> 131005 x11-apps/bitmap-1.0.6 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> >> 131005 x11-apps/sessreg-1.0.7 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> >> 131005 x11-apps/xkbutils-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> >> 131005 x11-apps/xkill-1.0.3 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> >> 131005 x11-apps/xlsclients-1.1.2 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> >> 131005 x11-apps/xrandr-1.3.5 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> >> 131005 x11-apps/xrefresh-1.0.4 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> >> 131005 x11-apps/xvinfo-1.1.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> >> 131005 x11-libs/libXp-1.0.1 [for xorg-x11 : otiose]
> >> 131005 x11-libs/libXvMC-1.0.7 [for nvidia-drivers]
> >> 131005 x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.4 [for mesa : otiose]
> >> 131005 x11-proto/printproto-1.0.5 [for xorg-x11 LO : otiose]
> >> Presumably, these have all been absorbed into other Xorg pgms.
> > x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r1 here.
> > I still have those packages; they're pulled in by x11-base/xorg-x11,
> > which is the main Xorg meta-package that pulls in xorg-server.
>
> Yes : I install them individually & don't use the meta.
>
> > As for whether you need them, I think that's your call.
> > I haven't tried xorg-server without xorg-x11 in a while,
> > but lots of those utilities are useful : xkill, xrandr ... .
>
> What are they useful for ? -- I can't do 'man' as they're not
> installed
> & 'eix' simply shows the same URL for each ; is there anywhere I can
> look ?
>
What about googling for "xkill linux".
E.g. xkill sometimes is the only possiblity to kill a process which
keeps a window open.
Just enter xkill in an XTerm, it will ask you to click into the window
which you want to close.
Helmut
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* Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server update puzzle
2013-10-09 12:13 ` Philip Webb
2013-10-09 12:18 ` Helmut Jarausch
@ 2013-10-09 17:36 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-11 18:11 ` Philip Webb
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2013-10-09 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:13:41 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> > I haven't tried xorg-server without xorg-x11 in a while,
> > but lots of those utilities are useful : xkill, xrandr ... .
>
> What are they useful for ? -- I can't do 'man' as they're not installed
> & 'eix' simply shows the same URL for each ; is there anywhere I can
> look ?
If you don't already use them, they probably aren't that useful to you :)
But you can read man pages at http://linux.die.net - there are other
sites that mirror man pages, but that's the one I use.
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Neil Bothwick
If you cannot fix it, feature it.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server update puzzle
2013-10-09 17:36 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2013-10-11 18:11 ` Philip Webb
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From: Philip Webb @ 2013-10-11 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
131009 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:13:41 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>> I haven't tried xorg-server without xorg-x11 in a while,
>> but lots of those utilities are useful : xkill, xrandr ... .
>> What are they useful for ? -- I can't do 'man' as they're not installed
>> & 'eix' simply shows the same URL for each ;
>> is there anywhere I can look ?
> you can read man pages at http://linux.die.net
Thanks : added to my notes.
> If you don't already use them, they probably aren't that useful to you :)
The only one which mb useful is Xkill, but it comes with a big warning
& one can usually use Htop to id + kill rogue windows.
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