From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983A81381F3 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A558DE0A52; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C140E0929 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (66-208-231-133.ubr01a.rte20201.pa.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [66.208.231.133]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MeyZt-1VCbR93tyD-00OXGN; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:53:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:53:34 -0500 From: Bruce Hill To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Mantle Open source GPU engine Message-ID: <20131004205334.GM10604@server> References: <20131004160437.GJ10604@server> <524F150B.3000001@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <524F150B.3000001@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:7I6vlFAE7NGciLj8FjlqepYP7Tj6LxUE2yJ1D3GP4Uq 0CK9kC0QDyBGALkGmYbE1hkFEiX703aCT0y/Odw4KMOJHP2Hfz pouFfmJ8ZkFDyffIIa8sFrJoARQOhB9uHyIIPL9RhmI5X0EnMS dMsbOH7k0UUCneqKNgWOlcCZzNGgYNhkcggUE49dlwuV1r9lTV v1ISoiN8gyWTBVPnfh6uDwxMWOiBElCLMDZPaIdFI7ThXr6aeT mi8grANG5b1WitZcgSN46gB5EvJu34C7uGp+Xmw7b1KDEdXRDs S3J1yIxrhkU3nKvBPVwaP/oyBTJN7iMRvkkcVniibiqvxUn55O AZVhdJ9I+ZJvUbLhfADlxhQ10z6J0n4OOp6+H/E1f X-Archives-Salt: 29c7b3a1-36b6-46e5-ba9d-1bad214babd3 X-Archives-Hash: bfd7f4df0975c3eaf0d76eeede9b5ca4 On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:20:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > computer gaming (yawn)... > > > Think again. > > What is the driving force behind all the super-duper performance > hardware you have right now? > > Gaming. > > What is the GPU capable of achieving when parallelized? Well, graphics > rendering is highly parallelizable and nowadays you see it in render > farms and Top500 supercomputers. But those didn;t fund it, so what did? > > Graphics cards sold to gamers. > > Graphics cards for gamers are probably the only thing left really > keeping the pc market as such going. Yes, there are still millions of > them on corporate desktops but that is a cut-throat market and at > what-tiny-number-of-bucks a pop? Bread and butter money, it keeps things > ticking over and pays the rent. But gamers pay for the bling. > > Almost ever awesome performance gain in the last 10 years at least that > you see in commercial products were driven in whole or in part by the > primary high performance market - gamers. > > Personally, I don't like games much and don't play them much. OK, I > don't play them at all. But the market they make up - that's different. > Those egg-heads are very important See previous reply in thread to James. This one was not threaded, but rather, a reply to the OP, so it makes it look as if you haven't read the thread. I played one computer game one day in 1990. Lost that entire day to that stupid game, and never played again. Except...one time for a few hours with a new friend the second year living in China. He wanted me to play NFS. After playing a few races with him, I explained that we do this with _real_cars_ on _real_roads_ in _real_life_ "back in America". It developed from the days of moonshining, and your car (and you as a driver) weren't anything if you couldn't outrun the local cops. ;) My gaming yawn was a poor, and needless, expression of disgust. -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ support@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting