From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2ED1381F3 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 972B0E0A4A; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:04:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86311E09B9 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (66-208-231-133.ubr01a.rte20201.pa.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [66.208.231.133]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MYQ0n-1VNulD37cv-00UtWY; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 12:04:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 11:04:37 -0500 From: Bruce Hill To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Mantle Open source GPU engine Message-ID: <20131004160437.GJ10604@server> References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:djT/KNE9FFqzOgqYavfQLN67NYe5xdL0SN9N4rclmhR fKm71W2p9TvP675ttDEWVPGA4SR1ETf/RSpkNumjfEG0rbJ5Ga G+IG3yXVNviTY+Ug2KKcopVhNmYW7Z7b9TVCXHBXAVaE6UU6OS Cmc2V/Jd5GHAvkudsxuZM4xg4q/V8KAh7uie2vir6hhuXpsQZG KIyATPHzJxPC3L4uZYkucbRULTFovIV1CwtIwD2ELp7iOXsUE6 DnCPYXFXAXdMtuYoxZCHASSxluzBaDJFm96eS5nQkV4/q+R/Ox LJQ1sR4eQbIX/6/cdUeHNtNeJan1h0XI/KDBBCYj2SH474DoP8 70iEd574ObVB/wkTZyi14AmDrgDmwwD9LygCz+b47 X-Archives-Salt: f40a813a-84d9-44f2-9e15-ea49775781c1 X-Archives-Hash: 7eebb34b5107ddc2a76792a3d87122c1 On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 03:02:07PM +0000, James wrote: > Howdy one and all, > > Well I heard about about AMD's push, referred to as Mantle > to unseat DirectX as the defacto gaming platform (yawn)... > > > But recently, an egg_head mathematician that irritates me > from time to time, called me in the middle of the night. > He, being an eceptionally bright and difficult humnoid; would > not shut up at what AMD is doing. > > Finally it seems that an open source, raw hardware access > API is going to allow truely unfettered access to the > computational blocks inside of a GPU. (ok now I was awake). > > Upon googing this am, I do see quite a buzz, particularly > since all Nvidia would have to do, is decide to implement > the open source -- open standard access to the bare metal > of the GPU. This should not be taken likely as it is akin > to all of the FPGA hardware folks giving away the billions > of dollars in IP, software and integration tools that make > building a custom processor, possible. Those tools are locked > away, due to expense and the business approach of hardware > vendors asking for money each time they reveal the tricks, > trade secrets and heuritical methods to build low level components. > > What this means is that MANTLE is a game changer and opens > up "bare metal access" to multitudes of ordinary computational > and recreatioal computer weenies....(whoa Pee!) > > > If this is true, it is a GAME CHANGERS (could not resist the pun). > > > So: > A. it is time for me to dig into this issue. > B. Are any of the folks on this list working to get > Mantle support available on Gentoo? > C. Anyone tested one of the "Hawaii" radeon cards? > D. Anyone working on running SteamOS virtualize on (gentoo) linux? > > > as always, your thoughts are most welcome > > James > > [1] > http://www.pcworld.com/article/2049369/amd-nvidia-ramp-up-linux-driver-support-after-valves-steamos-announcement.html > > [2] http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-mantle-api-gcn-battlefield-4,24418.html computer gaming (yawn)... -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ support@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting