[gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[Peter Weilbacher]

On one of my machines, I get continuous beeping from the internal 
loudspeaker when I boot a newer kernel (I'm using vanilla-sources). I 
first had that with 3.10.8 and also with 3.10.10, and it continues with 
3.11.1.

When I first had that problem I tried to remove all config options that 
had to do with the internal speaker, like
   CONFIG_HAVE_PCSPKR_PLATFORM
   CONFIG_PCSPKR_PLATFORM
   CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR
but that didn't help.

In the meantime I left the machine on long enough to discover that it 
stops beeping whenever it is idle long enough and blanks the display.

Does that ring a bell with someone?
    Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[the]

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On 09/26/13 16:42, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> On one of my machines, I get continuous beeping from the internal 
> loudspeaker when I boot a newer kernel (I'm using vanilla-sources).
> I first had that with 3.10.8 and also with 3.10.10, and it
> continues with 3.11.1.
> 
> When I first had that problem I tried to remove all config options
> that had to do with the internal speaker, like 
> CONFIG_HAVE_PCSPKR_PLATFORM CONFIG_PCSPKR_PLATFORM 
> CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR but that didn't help.
> 
> In the meantime I left the machine on long enough to discover that
> it stops beeping whenever it is idle long enough and blanks the
> display.
> 
> Does that ring a bell with someone? Peter.

Might be related with some kind of io error.
What does dmesg show?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[Bruce Hill]

On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 02:42:59PM +0200, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> On one of my machines, I get continuous beeping from the internal 
> loudspeaker when I boot a newer kernel (I'm using vanilla-sources). I 
> first had that with 3.10.8 and also with 3.10.10, and it continues with 
> 3.11.1.
> 
> When I first had that problem I tried to remove all config options that 
> had to do with the internal speaker, like
>    CONFIG_HAVE_PCSPKR_PLATFORM
>    CONFIG_PCSPKR_PLATFORM
>    CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR
> but that didn't help.
> 
> In the meantime I left the machine on long enough to discover that it 
> stops beeping whenever it is idle long enough and blanks the display.
> 
> Does that ring a bell with someone?
>     Peter.

Check the manual for your BIOS/motherboard to see if it's some indication of
hardware failure.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[Peter Weilbacher]

On 2013-09-26 15:35, Bruce Hill wrote:
> Check the manual for your BIOS/motherboard to see if it's some 
> indication of
> hardware failure.

Hmm, I'm sure that I have seen some beeps documented, but I cannot find 
that anywhere in the manual now. But I have a hard time believing that 
it's the hardware when going back to kernel 3.8.x fixes the beeping.

    Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[Peter Weilbacher]

On 2013-09-26 15:24, the wrote:

> Might be related with some kind of io error.
> What does dmesg show?

Nothing out of the ordinary. :-(

Can it have something to do with the graphics card instead? Because it 
stops right when the screen blanks?
    Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[Dale]

Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> On one of my machines, I get continuous beeping from the internal
> loudspeaker when I boot a newer kernel (I'm using vanilla-sources). I
> first had that with 3.10.8 and also with 3.10.10, and it continues
> with 3.11.1.
>
> When I first had that problem I tried to remove all config options
> that had to do with the internal speaker, like
>   CONFIG_HAVE_PCSPKR_PLATFORM
>   CONFIG_PCSPKR_PLATFORM
>   CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR
> but that didn't help.
>
> In the meantime I left the machine on long enough to discover that it
> stops beeping whenever it is idle long enough and blanks the display.
>
> Does that ring a bell with someone?
>    Peter.
>
>

I wish I could recall the fix because I ran into this once before.  I
changed something in the kernel config but I can't recall what it was. 
I'm thinking on it and if it hits me, maybe after hitting send, I'll be
glad to share.  This was maybe a year ago that I hit this tho. 

I hate getting older.  lol 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:09:27 -0500, Dale wrote:

> I hate getting older.  lol 

It's a lot better than the alternative...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[J. Roeleveld]

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Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:09:27 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I hate getting older.  lol 
>
>It's a lot better than the alternative...
>
>
>-- 
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>
>A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.

What is wrong with getting younger?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:23:22 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:

> >> I hate getting older.  lol   
> >
> >It's a lot better than the alternative...
 
> What is wrong with getting younger?

<pedant>That's an opposite, not an alternative</pedant>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[joost]

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Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:23:22 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>
>> >> I hate getting older.  lol   
>> >
>> >It's a lot better than the alternative...
> 
>> What is wrong with getting younger?
>
><pedant>That's an opposite, not an alternative</pedant>
>
>
>-- 
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>
>For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted.

What would the alternative be then?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[Tanstaafl]

On 2013-10-03 12:10 PM, joost@antarean.org <joost@antarean.org> wrote:
> Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:23:22 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>>>> I hate getting older. lol

>>>> It's a lot better than the alternative...

>>> What is wrong with getting younger?

>> pedant>That's an opposite, not an alternative</pedant>

> What would the alternative be then?

Getting 'dead'? ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:10:19 +0200, joost@antarean.org wrote:

> >> >> I hate getting older.  lol     
> >> >
> >> >It's a lot better than the alternative...  
> >   
> >> What is wrong with getting younger?  
> >
> ><pedant>That's an opposite, not an alternative</pedant>

> What would the alternative be then?

Think about it. You start getting older the day you are born, when do you
stop getting older? ;-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[joost]

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Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>On Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:10:19 +0200, joost@antarean.org wrote:
>
>> >> >> I hate getting older.  lol     
>> >> >
>> >> >It's a lot better than the alternative...  
>> >   
>> >> What is wrong with getting younger?  
>> >
>> ><pedant>That's an opposite, not an alternative</pedant>
>
>> What would the alternative be then?
>
>Think about it. You start getting older the day you are born, when do
>you
>stop getting older? ;-)
>
>
>-- 
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>
>668 - The neighbour of the beast.

When you stop caring about age ;)
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[gentoo-user] Re: Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[Peter Weilbacher]

On 2013-09-26 14:42, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> On one of my machines, I get continuous beeping from the internal
> loudspeaker when I boot a newer kernel (I'm using vanilla-sources). I
> first had that with 3.10.8 and also with 3.10.10, and it continues
> with 3.11.1.
[...]
> In the meantime I left the machine on long enough to discover that it
> stops beeping whenever it is idle long enough and blanks the display.

Well, this is embarrassing: Since this began I switched the machine on 
even less often than before, but yesterday I found out by chance that 
the sound did not come from the internal speaker but from the speakers 
built into my screen. Now I traced it to the snd-hda-intel kernel module 
(noise there if loaded, sound gone when removed with |modprobe -r|).

Why was the sound never heard on bootup in 3.8.x kernels but is starting 
with 3.10.1?

    Peter.

P.S.: At least now I know that the easy workaround is to tune the 
(hardware) speaker volume down to 0...

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[Alan McKinnon]

On 15/10/2013 14:44, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> On 2013-09-26 14:42, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
>> On one of my machines, I get continuous beeping from the internal
>> loudspeaker when I boot a newer kernel (I'm using vanilla-sources). I
>> first had that with 3.10.8 and also with 3.10.10, and it continues
>> with 3.11.1.
> [...]
>> In the meantime I left the machine on long enough to discover that it
>> stops beeping whenever it is idle long enough and blanks the display.
> 
> Well, this is embarrassing: Since this began I switched the machine on
> even less often than before, but yesterday I found out by chance that
> the sound did not come from the internal speaker but from the speakers
> built into my screen. Now I traced it to the snd-hda-intel kernel module
> (noise there if loaded, sound gone when removed with |modprobe -r|).
> 
> Why was the sound never heard on bootup in 3.8.x kernels but is starting
> with 3.10.1?

3.8.x defaults to $VOL=$MINIMUM

while

3.10.x defaults to $VOL=$SOMETHING_NOT_MINIMAL

??

or maybe the audio feed to snd-hda-intel was busted for years and some
kind soul fixed it in 3.10?


Diff the drivers in the kernel sources to find out more :-)




> 
>    Peter.
> 
> P.S.: At least now I know that the easy workaround is to tune the
> (hardware) speaker volume down to 0...
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

[the]

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On 10/15/13 16:44, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> On 2013-09-26 14:42, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
>> On one of my machines, I get continuous beeping from the
>> internal loudspeaker when I boot a newer kernel (I'm using
>> vanilla-sources). I first had that with 3.10.8 and also with
>> 3.10.10, and it continues with 3.11.1.
> [...]
>> In the meantime I left the machine on long enough to discover
>> that it stops beeping whenever it is idle long enough and blanks
>> the display.
> 
> Well, this is embarrassing: Since this began I switched the machine
> on even less often than before, but yesterday I found out by chance
> that the sound did not come from the internal speaker but from the
> speakers built into my screen. Now I traced it to the snd-hda-intel
> kernel module (noise there if loaded, sound gone when removed with
> |modprobe -r|).
> 
> Why was the sound never heard on bootup in 3.8.x kernels but is
> starting with 3.10.1?
> 
> Peter.
> 
> P.S.: At least now I know that the easy workaround is to tune the 
> (hardware) speaker volume down to 0...
> 
nice joke
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