From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07561138202 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 970F0E0B8F; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36CE0E0B58 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wo20so4698282obc.27 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:13:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=Pjk/8QvjJpXPcJ76fXBKSCgahlU56X7BfN1U9lE+Pyk=; b=laDA/+j79aVoJ8RmZNhXVO9ImvjkxM73SX+J3Iewt2I4qTkpEoa0YfQB2iWYqIp1r6 KJ8QzUceeMXUgti9oy5vGmQaHT+sNw9dP3dxITprCmsdHTRinieyJ+NdOtbTDz0Vpdp+ Cy/Yo+CaQNdXKJRCN7z5ZJtXTgThu5AT6lYi1w+ngv12mUEDJcab/qMd2eLJfVqfxnM5 qVvmpttHkP6fP6GzJ2z6+avCe+Qa78QdRQ32iIUBhSPxwIPT6w+8ykOM4mw6+a7FsHiT +tnE0S9LNc7KcyGTnHcUcZptx4WRd4xHOUaRWj1oeol0laqNeBQM2ng3sTM01bjmF7nJ 4cZA== X-Received: by 10.60.115.164 with SMTP id jp4mr17688340oeb.19.1380510829236; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rr6sm34523939oeb.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:13:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:13:45 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] some of the stuff in /usr that's become a problem Message-ID: <20130930031345.GA17815@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <5248DBDF.2070902@gmail.com> <5248E00D.6010006@sporkbox.us> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5248E00D.6010006@sporkbox.us> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 9b4bc402-6e30-4fee-9059-a068409094c8 X-Archives-Hash: 84cf6776fe4104a8c583df1be9066e97 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 09:21:01PM -0500, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > /usr/lib/udev..... > > /usr/lib/systemd..... > >=20 > > were both placed in /usr despite objections from a number of folks. > >=20 > > So claims that udev and systemd are not responsible are not true. Udev is installed in / in gentoo. I am a co-maintainer of udev and that was fixed quite some time back, it is the Gentoo systemd team that installs their version of udev in /usr. Installing udev or eudev, however, doesn't really solve the issue though, because it is possible to run arbitrary programs from within udev rules. Another unrelated concern is if you install a program in / that needs to access something in /usr/share, this will be broken by not having /usr mounted. This means that, for example, the locale logic of most software can't work without /usr since it accesses files in /usr/share/locale. William --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlJI7GkACgkQblQW9DDEZThNzwCdGKJ8SCK4dYzrkjaEceNcMt4H OpIAoKETHCU2Ojm/54YwwC5BR8HwFJXZ =qOio -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU--