From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E5B1381F3 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 23:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15D32E0FD1; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 23:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B823BE0BC7 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 23:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from digimed.co.uk (shooty.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.8]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0442D218E6 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:12:44 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:12:43 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 Message-ID: <20130930001243.583749ad@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5248A026.6000506@gmail.com> References: <20130927222109.GD23408@server> <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <20130927223916.GE23408@server> <52460D42.2080109@gmail.com> <20130928003220.GF23408@server> <20130928160159.GA4247@linux1> <5247128D.3030801@gmail.com> <20130928205308.547335bf@digimed.co.uk> <5247550D.5010200@gmail.com> <20130928234621.57754558@digimed.co.uk> <524761B4.60805@gmail.com> <20130929194125.2c8f33ba@digimed.co.uk> <5248A026.6000506@gmail.com> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2-71-gace330 (GTK+ 2.24.21; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/LHmitmjy7uXBLd1Cy+hFC_t"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: bd268542-491f-4043-a1fb-541946faaa37 X-Archives-Hash: 51e23305d27b5091a368e25e5b2d426d --Sig_/LHmitmjy7uXBLd1Cy+hFC_t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:48:22 -0500, Dale wrote: > > They are not the same. Your stating that they are the same to you is > > effectively saying "I know what I believe, don't bother me with the > > real facts". >=20 > They are the same to me as yet one more point of failure that I DO NOT > want. I have dealt with those in the past and I don't want either of > them and I don't care of it is called "cute teddy bears" or whatever.=20 > My point still stands, it is one more thing between grub and the kernel > and I don't want it.=20 You may have the same reason for not wanting to use either, but that does not make them the same. I detest both cabbage and spinach, I refuse to eat either, but I wouldn't try to claim they were the same vegetable. > >> Provided that the old one works tho right? What if I update and it > >> breaks more than one thing? Then what?=20 > > That's got nothing to do with the kernel, initramfs or separate /usr. > > Once init is running, all that is history, it's done its job. If > > something subsequently fails, it has nothing to do with mounting / > > and /usr (which is all the initramfs does). > If I select what to boot in grub and it fails, there I sit. If I try > another and it fails, there I sit. I have enough issues at times > already. I don't want one more that already has a bad, VERY bad, > history with me. I have enough fun with the kernel at times.=20 Once you have installed a kernel, you never update it. You may compile another one with different settings, or install a different version, but the kernel you installed is not updated. Your kernel is about the only thing not affected by, or at risk of being broken by, updates, because nothing is ever overwritten, unlike just about every other update. > >> To ME, a init thingy is a init thingy. That's why I call them all > >> init thingys. To ME, both are apples. One may be green and another > >> red but both are still apples.=20 > > Please, don't ever offer to feed me :-) > You would be surprised, I am one heck of a cook.=20 Never tempt me with food, I may take you up on it one day. Just don't ever offer me any of those green thingies :P --=20 Neil Bothwick I'm in shape ... Rounds a shape isn't it? --Sig_/LHmitmjy7uXBLd1Cy+hFC_t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlJIs+sACgkQum4al0N1GQPtKwCgthL+AGw055lEs8KoEb0js58i AqEAniXXIVNPvllWdcWNd46HkAQWGwpo =tJe6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/LHmitmjy7uXBLd1Cy+hFC_t--