From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3A91381F3 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 18:53:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA0A0E0A49; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 18:53:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B469BE08E8 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 18:53:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from digimed.co.uk (shooty.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.8]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0CA5423B9F for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:53:39 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:53:38 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 Message-ID: <20130929195338.5ff2a57b@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <524866AE.4060908@libertytrek.org> References: <20130927222109.GD23408@server> <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <20130927223916.GE23408@server> <52460D42.2080109@gmail.com> <20130928003220.GF23408@server> <20130928160159.GA4247@linux1> <5247128D.3030801@gmail.com> <20130928205308.547335bf@digimed.co.uk> <5247550D.5010200@gmail.com> <20130928234621.57754558@digimed.co.uk> <524866AE.4060908@libertytrek.org> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2-71-gace330 (GTK+ 2.24.20; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/=8hI6MpBwaXk2jyAkLaXzxU"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 07a12193-1876-4562-987f-c9b59ed0348e X-Archives-Hash: 3a39f819868fc0149e96da2b488735f9 --Sig_/=8hI6MpBwaXk2jyAkLaXzxU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:43:10 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Except you can never break Gentoo with a kernel update because, unlike > > some other distros, installing a new kernel does not uninstall the > > previous one. No matter how badly wrng a kernel update goes, you can > > always hit reset then select the old one from the GRUB menu - > > reinstallation doesn't come into it. =20 >=20 > My understanding is that this is not true, and that a USERLAND update=20 > (LVM2, which I use, among them) can cause breakage that will cause the=20 > CURRENT kernel+initramfs to no longer boot. >=20 > Is my understanding flawed? I would say so. Unless you change the LVM metadata in such a way that the tools in the initramfs cannt read it, I don't see how this can happen. And you'd have to recreates your LVs for that to occur. > Totally side question: Anyone ever hear Linus' opinion of an initramfs=20 > being required to boot a system? I suppose the fact that his kernel includes an initramfs and always tries to load it when booting, and that there isn't even an option to disable this behaviour, gives a good indication of his feelings towards the idea of an initramfs. --=20 Neil Bothwick Q. What is the difference between Queensland and yoghurt? A. Yoghurt has an active culture. --Sig_/=8hI6MpBwaXk2jyAkLaXzxU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlJIdzIACgkQum4al0N1GQOTywCePdWGaySpRqHxBWa7+hAhmY6p vi4Anjzx+FWpBi11aaXfjdI9n7K+Zr1N =h0Dr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/=8hI6MpBwaXk2jyAkLaXzxU--