From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280801381F3 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 18:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D53E6E0F74; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 18:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f45.google.com (mail-oa0-f45.google.com [209.85.219.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1196E0A49 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 18:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id o17so3359659oag.18 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:55:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=EL06uyaZEM2KWAUFzwzQaFcrENGHiFUdb0VZH6xtomo=; b=VwcBvYtQpSwYWHMJWD8psYMTkjggFnwnS3qnU4Zqn1dRoSgF5u8sTzCXp1bR+iZ/ED OeK1KID41CVc72c3NHtOfxpaKvvb2ZlMMhDzZR4Z/QnODNGDG6vB5wluZcFr+9LIMTCg Nm5f1cD8wO1hYPynoB9gIHZ7zY87haaUqoSRcgY9ABrPRbW8wb1TTrJmqkPa81dfCVb4 qXNtEulaI8qMZLGldYGG2MZjVo5hbOJ65bKO1frKMYSFmR86JKrDiW/chVhg75x+4qby EmJtbEVU+1yu2ZZz0ONW87T1k228B/mjWyUsprrxx5nbGuBgi6Ea66NkfuCfXdI5eChF +bwQ== X-Received: by 10.182.28.134 with SMTP id b6mr16478962obh.27.1380480907956; Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-91-128.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.91.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r3sm31681591oep.2.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:55:04 -0500 Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 13:55:04 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 Message-ID: <20130929185504.GA16543@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20130927222109.GD23408@server> <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <524759FB.2090304@gmail.com> <524869A5.4070306@libertytrek.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <524869A5.4070306@libertytrek.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 9d5085c8-36c3-4509-b5b0-ed65176e084b X-Archives-Hash: e43f9243c6b5f49d54e7e304a46a586c --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 01:55:49PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-09-28 6:36 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > So this brings us back to the essential technical problem that still > > needs to be solved on your machines: > > > > /usr needs to be available (and not only for BT keyboards) at the > > earliest possible opportunity - this is a technical constraint. To > > guarantee that, you need to either merge /usr with /, or use an > > initramfs to guarantee that /usr is available before anything else > > happens in userland. > > > > It*really* is that simple. If you have a better solution than my last > > two choices, then I am all ears. >=20 > Ok, and if this is all true, I can accept it. Alan, this is a very good summary of the issues involved. Everyone on the list should go and read flameeyes' blog post then this summary. Tanstaaf, I am the OpenRC author/maintainer and a member of base-system. I can tell you that we are not discussing forcing systemd on everyone in Gentoo Linux as a default init system. I can also tell you that I am not aware of the Gentoo systemd team discussing this. Even if they were, a distro-wide change like this would have to be brought before the Council. William --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlJId4gACgkQblQW9DDEZTgoygCglH08FhDxQ4hagCTufDAz1dvq u2kAn2o+X1RwrrTjZP0DTEDbg4fU5wdc =wMZn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3V7upXqbjpZ4EhLz--