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From: Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 07:30:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130928123045.GG23408@server> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52469659.8040003@gmail.com>

On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 03:42:01AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> 
> 
> As someone else posted, some folks have different mount options for /usr
> that they do for others partitions.  For me, I just want to keep it
> seperate so that I can adjust things with LVM if I need to.  Something I
> have done a couple times I might add just since I started using LVM a
> few years ago.
> 
> Dale

You are welcome to keep it separate. What you're being told by the Gentoo
devs, specifically WilliamH, is that the Gentoo devs can no longer support
early mount of /usr separate from / and if you choose to keep that, your
system is going to require an initramfs to boot.

Just that simple.

All the "we don't want them shoving whatever down our throats" arguments are a
waste of time. You have been warned over 30 days in advance.

This does not mean that on November 1 your system will not be able to boot.
Its simply means that beginning November 1, Gentoo devs are not required to
jump through hoops to make apps work on systems with /usr separate from /.

Now, what are you going to do? That's the question.

1 - keep ranting about "them" and what "they are doing to me"?
2 - move your /usr under / ?
3 - learn HOW-TO make and install an initramfs?
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-28 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 262+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-27 22:21 [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 Bruce Hill
2013-09-27 22:33 ` Dale
2013-09-27 22:39   ` Bruce Hill
2013-09-27 22:57     ` Dale
2013-09-27 23:10       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-27 23:47         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-28  0:39         ` David W Noon
2013-09-28  8:30           ` Mick
2013-09-28  8:42         ` Dale
2013-09-28 12:30           ` Bruce Hill [this message]
2013-09-28 12:49             ` David W Noon
2013-09-28 12:54               ` Bruce Hill
2013-09-29 14:20             ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 14:57               ` Bruce Hill
2013-09-29 17:24                 ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 17:41                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-09-29 18:02                   ` Bruce Hill
2013-09-29 18:29                     ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-28 11:32         ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-28 13:15           ` Michael Hampicke
2013-09-28 15:06             ` Dale
2013-09-28 16:54               ` Mick
2013-09-28 17:49               ` Michael Hampicke
2013-09-28 18:18                 ` Dale
2013-09-28 22:46                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 14:49                   ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 15:24                     ` Dale
2013-09-29 17:37                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 18:25                         ` Dale
2013-09-29 18:45                           ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 21:23                             ` Walter Dnes
2013-09-29 21:32                               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29 21:33                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 23:05                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29 21:35                             ` Dale
2013-09-29 22:58                               ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 23:27                                 ` Dale
2013-09-30 17:10                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-30 17:25                                     ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-30 17:42                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-30 19:10                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-30 20:47                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-01  3:36                                         ` Bruce Hill
2013-10-01  7:37                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-30 20:48                                     ` Dale
2013-09-30 21:04                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-10-01  1:43                                         ` Dale
2013-09-29 23:19                               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29 23:34                                 ` Dale
2013-09-30  8:09                             ` Joost Roeleveld
2013-09-29 18:45                           ` Bruce Hill
2013-09-30 16:38                           ` Dan Johansson
2013-09-30 18:09                             ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-09-30 20:08                               ` Dan Johansson
2013-09-30 20:50                             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29 15:41                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-09-29 20:17                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 14:30             ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-28 14:04           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-28 18:11             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-28 19:50               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-28 22:51                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 14:55                 ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 17:55             ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 20:28               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 23:31             ` Daniel Campbell
2013-09-29 23:57               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-30 10:01                 ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2013-09-30 10:22                   ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-02 23:28                     ` [gentoo-user] " Jonathan Callen
2013-09-30  9:31               ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2013-09-30 10:27                 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-09-30 10:28                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-28  0:32       ` Bruce Hill
2013-09-28 16:01         ` William Hubbs
2013-09-28 17:31           ` Dale
2013-09-28 19:53             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-28 22:15               ` Dale
2013-09-28 22:46                 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-28 23:09                   ` Dale
2013-09-29  5:29                     ` Walter Dnes
2013-09-29  8:25                       ` Mick
2013-09-29  8:28                         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 10:55                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-29 11:03                             ` Greg Woodbury
2013-09-29 11:58                               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-29 15:12                                 ` Flexibility and robustness in the Linux organisim (was: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01) Greg Woodbury
2013-09-29 15:22                                   ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-09-29 16:03                                   ` [gentoo-user] Re: Flexibility and robustness in the Linux organisim Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-29 16:33                                     ` Dale
2013-09-29 19:42                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 21:41                                         ` Dale
2013-09-29 22:04                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-30  6:31                                             ` pk
2013-09-30  7:32                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-30 19:40                                                 ` pk
2013-09-30 21:05                                                   ` Walter Dnes
2013-09-30 22:37                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-11  8:16                                                       ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-10-11  8:44                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-11 14:44                                                         ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-10-01 19:22                                               ` [gentoo-user] " Mark David Dumlao
2013-10-01 19:28                                                 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-10-11  7:54                                             ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-10-11  7:50                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-10-11 11:22                                                 ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-09-29 16:41                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2013-09-29 22:47                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-30 23:21                                         ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2013-10-01  5:11                                           ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-10-01  5:14                                             ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-10-01 16:35                                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-10-11  8:28                                             ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-10-11 15:50                                               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-29 17:54                                   ` [gentoo-user] " Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 19:30                                 ` [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 Alan McKinnon
2013-10-08  0:03                                 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-10-08 18:11                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-10-09  4:16                                     ` William Hubbs
2013-10-10  0:24                                       ` walt
2013-10-10 14:46                                         ` William Hubbs
2013-10-10 15:29                                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-10-11  6:59                                             ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2013-09-29 18:46                               ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2013-10-02 16:58                               ` the
2013-09-29 19:16                             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-30  2:23                         ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-09-29 18:41                     ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29 21:48                       ` Dale
2013-09-29 23:12                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29 17:43                   ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 18:53                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29 19:54                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 20:20             ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-09-29 22:00               ` Dale
2013-09-29 22:31                 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-09-29 23:08                   ` Dale
2013-09-30  7:35                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-30  9:27                       ` Dale
2013-09-29 23:40             ` Daniel Campbell
2013-09-30  7:39               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-28 19:04           ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-09-28 20:17             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-28 21:09               ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-09-28 22:37                 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29  4:48                   ` Greg Woodbury
2013-09-29  5:08                     ` Bruce Hill
2013-09-29  8:43                       ` Dale
2013-09-29 12:07                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-09-29 16:10                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-29 22:06                       ` Walter Dnes
2013-09-29 23:00                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-30  4:14                           ` Walter Dnes
2013-09-30  4:21                             ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-09-30  4:36                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-09-30  9:25                                 ` Walter Dnes
2013-09-30  8:01                             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-30 10:32                               ` Joost Roeleveld
2013-09-30 10:41                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-30  8:19                             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29 23:24                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29 17:55                     ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 18:30                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-28 22:24               ` Dale
2013-09-29 17:58               ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 18:21                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-09-29 18:32                   ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 19:11                   ` William Hubbs
2013-09-29 19:34                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-09-29 19:41                       ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-09-29 23:02                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-29 23:52                   ` Greg Woodbury
2013-09-30  0:02                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-11  8:36               ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-10-11  8:42                 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-11 11:27                   ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-10-11 11:55                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-11 13:11                       ` Peter Humphrey
2013-10-11 13:58                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-12  2:21                   ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-10-12  5:06                     ` Daniel Campbell
2013-10-12  8:11                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29 14:53             ` [gentoo-user] " Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 15:39               ` Dale
2013-09-30  4:55                 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-09-30  9:24                   ` Dale
2013-09-29 18:36               ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2013-09-30 10:16                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2013-09-30 10:24                   ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-30 10:35                     ` Joost Roeleveld
2013-09-29 17:59           ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 20:09             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 20:35               ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-30 10:20               ` Joost Roeleveld
2013-09-28 20:43   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2013-09-28 20:58     ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-09-28 22:36       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-28 23:23         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-28 23:31           ` pk
2013-09-29  0:01             ` Dale
2013-09-29  0:10               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29  0:33               ` pk
2013-09-29  4:05               ` Bruce Hill
2013-09-29 10:59             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-29 15:24               ` pk
2013-09-29 16:11                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-29 16:36                   ` Dale
2013-09-29 17:05                     ` pk
2013-09-29  0:08           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 10:59             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-29  6:06         ` Walter Dnes
2013-09-29  9:30           ` pk
2013-09-29 10:21           ` Neil Bothwick
2013-09-29 17:55         ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 18:55           ` William Hubbs
2013-09-29 19:09             ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-09 13:39               ` gottlieb
2013-09-29 20:39             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 20:51             ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 21:15               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-29 22:53                 ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-29 23:09                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-30  9:00                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-30 17:25                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-09-30 19:14                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-30 22:05                         ` Mick
2013-09-30 22:39                           ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-01 12:35                         ` PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS " Tanstaafl
2013-10-01 12:46                           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-10-01 13:52                             ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-01 14:11                               ` Alan McKinnon
2013-10-01 14:57                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-01 14:17                               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-01 13:13                           ` Dragostin Yanev
2013-10-01 14:14                           ` Michael Orlitzky
2013-10-01 18:15                             ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-01 18:48                               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-01 21:24                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-10-01 22:51                                   ` Greg Turner
2013-10-01 23:41                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-02 12:23                                       ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-02 15:31                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-02 18:24                                           ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-02 20:21                                             ` Tanstaafl
2013-12-04 15:05                                               ` [gentoo-user] Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable Tanstaafl
2013-12-04 21:43                                                 ` Tanstaafl
2013-12-04 22:44                                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2013-12-05 11:47                                                     ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-03  5:48                                   ` PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 joost
2013-10-03  8:11                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-02 12:04                                 ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-02 12:12                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-02 12:29                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-10-02 12:28                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-10-02 12:53                                     ` Tanstaafl
2013-10-02 15:47                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-10-02 16:39                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-10-03  9:00                                     ` Yuri K. Shatroff
2013-10-03 12:09                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-10-02  8:03                           ` [gentoo-user] Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable Thanasis
2013-09-30  0:28             ` [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 Daniel Campbell
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