From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-150798-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D7F1381F3 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 07:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46ACAE0C76; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 07:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15EFFE0AFF for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 07:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.80.1) for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org with esmtp (envelope-from <h.v.bruinehsen@fu-berlin.de>) id <1VMYuq-003WH5-H2>; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 09:44:44 +0200 Received: from dslb-188-103-183-221.pools.arcor-ip.net ([188.103.183.221] helo=TranscendTheRubicon.fritz.box) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.80.1) for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from <h.v.bruinehsen@fu-berlin.de>) id <1VMYuq-001vO3-BM>; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 09:44:44 +0200 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 09:44:41 +0200 From: Hinnerk van Bruinehsen <h.v.bruinehsen@fu-berlin.de> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ZFS Message-ID: <20130919074441.GB12275@TranscendTheRubicon.fritz.box> References: <CAN0CFw1nGVZxJGGsq4TZidEPuyLDkcD0oYRDOOfNzFFM2vQ-tg@mail.gmail.com> <523898A3.7000404@googlemail.com> <52389B55.6090600@libertytrek.org> <20130918042228.GG25579@server> <loom.20130918T144004-646@post.gmane.org> <CAN0CFw1ovoDhA_jvp27zK4+8eBV4bva2ntrYEZVvVXCoydDkAQ@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cmJC7u66zC7hs+87" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <CAN0CFw1ovoDhA_jvp27zK4+8eBV4bva2ntrYEZVvVXCoydDkAQ@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Originating-IP: 188.103.183.221 X-Archives-Salt: c946abaf-740e-46e7-b2bd-99e70aef28a0 X-Archives-Hash: 40ac105866ac56cf1d3b994cbf0e9887 --cmJC7u66zC7hs+87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 09:49:40PM -0700, Grant wrote: > > I think many folks are interested in upgrading to EXT4 with RAID from > > an ordinary JBOD workstation(server); or better yet to ZFS on RAID. I wish > > one of the brighter minds amongst us would put out a skeleton > > (wiki) information page as such: > > > > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS+RAID > > > > I know I have struggled with completing this sort of installation > > several time in the last 6 months. I'm sure this (proposed) wiki page > > would get lots of updates from the Gentoo user community. Surely, > > I'm not qualified to do this, or it would have already been on the > > gentoo wiki.... > > > > Much of the older X + RAID pages are deprecated, when one considers > > the changes that accompany such an installation ( Grub2, UUID, fstab, > > partitioning of drives, Kernel options, just to name a few). We're > > talking about quite a bit of deviation from the standard handbook > > installation, fraught with hidden, fatal mis-steps. > > Any important points or key concepts a ZFS newbie should remember when > installing with it for the first time? > > - Grant You should definitely determine the right value for ashift on pool creation (it controls the alignment on the medium). It's an option that you afaik can only set on filesystem creation and therefore needs a restart from scratch if you get it wrong. According to the illumos wiki it's possible to run a mixed pool (if you have drives requiring different alignments[1]) If in doubt: ask ryao (iirc given the right information he can tell you which are the right options for you if you can't deduce it yourself). Choosing the wrong alignment can cause severe performance loss (that's not a ZFS issue but happened when 4k sector drives appeared and tools like fdisk weren't aware of this). 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