From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930591381F3 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EA91E0B5E; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14B3AE0A91 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.80.1) for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1VKVke-0018GG-Oj>; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:57:44 +0200 Received: from dslb-188-103-160-243.pools.arcor-ip.net ([188.103.160.243] helo=bifrost.fritz.box) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.80.1) for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1VKVke-002FWz-IE>; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:57:44 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:57:39 +0200 From: Hinnerk van Bruinehsen To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE: unwanted dependencies Message-ID: <20130913155739.GD16464@bifrost.fritz.box> References: <5232E48B.6060608@yandex.ru> <5232E582.6000907@gmail.com> <5232F86F.3090909@yandex.ru> <52331B59.1000802@yandex.ru> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+JUInw4efm7IfTNU" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52331B59.1000802@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Originating-IP: 188.103.160.243 X-Archives-Salt: 135b8508-1f6e-4670-bb70-93f3675a3864 X-Archives-Hash: c82040ce0e6011949487a93985cf030f --+JUInw4efm7IfTNU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 06:04:09PM +0400, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > On 13.09.2013 17:50, Michael Palimaka wrote: > > On 13/09/2013 21:35, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > >> On 13.09.2013 14:14, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> On 13/09/2013 12:10, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > >>>> Hi people, > >>>> > >>>> I am about to update KDE from 4.10.4 to 4.11.1. > >>>> Is it possible to avoid installing various nepomuks and akonadis which > >>> > >>> No > >> > >> Pity. > >> > >>>> appear to be required now? I have set USE=-semantic-desktop but it > >>>> doesn't seem to help. > > While the USE flag has disappeared, you could try putting nepomuk and > > akonadi into your package.provided file. > > > >>>> My current KDE installation is quite happy without that stuff (which > >>>> also brings along tons of other crap). > >>> > >>> > >>> The KDE maintainers posted quite extensively about this some time back. > >> > >> Some time back I heard that KDE devs were striving to make KDE more > >> modular. > > KDE upstream is, yes, and how this will affect semantic-desktop remains > > to be seen. > > so there is hope? ;) > > >>> It is too hard to try and extract semantic-desktop out of the KDE build > >>> whilst not breaking everything else. What you now do is allow the stuff > >>> to be built, and disable the function in System Settings. > >> > >> Well why wasn't it too hard before? It's not quite obvious why one's got > >> to "extract" some additional functionality, as opposed to including it > >> when needed. A strange approach, all in all. > > The decision to remove the USE flag happened mostly because it maintain, > > and was in general not well supported anyway. > > > > There have been a number of proposals about the situation: do nothing, > > do a full revert, or implement some compromise. I would hope that we > > make a final decision about this before stabilising any 4.11 version. > > Clear, then I'll opt to wait for the stable 4.11. > > >> BTW, it seems that mysql is also a hard dependency for QT now. At least, > >> the average joe can't be scorned any more for not having a "server". Hey > >> to all localhost admins! :) > > That shouldn't be the case. The default akonadi backend is mysql, why > > could explain why it's being pulled in. > > Yes, really, I was mislead, it is qtsql which requires setting the mysql > flag, but I missed that it was due to akonadi. IIRC you can substitute mysql with sqlite by changing useflags. mysql seems the be the default though... WKR Hinnerk --+JUInw4efm7IfTNU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSMzXzAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYcn/oIAKAI+7Ldrti+7wZMFBJkWAKs 2NX1Fr4vL/fj7mtZ4O9MUa0aDdZEKZuxM5/XUPh65+Nrz+G9CCvBs4rjt8y63fkN Kach4cuQlJ6FKOQh1VHT7yQ6/zcceqhOL/fw4J5Z//bsEgSMs3/ByA8LepX9n73L S1R5AX+ZuBf99jXoO8erMCGYeQXZnbfph7EZmrqM4eGfoKx9S1SgIssHAob7I2wW iRPi9tQo8UmKb2M4dghfNlRl5hIpYEWXFI+DDIL+PChtl7wwigDDyNCSD7fNW/Sy u5JaYPBP1+q8/TuxpxryE65Osl20YuxMNCGaPvnm3Heii4qHpEU/2qHfNZGVwus= =cjv3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+JUInw4efm7IfTNU--