Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE: unwanted dependencies

[Hinnerk van Bruinehsen <h.v.bruinehsen@fu-berlin.de>]

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On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 06:04:09PM +0400, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
> On 13.09.2013 17:50, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> > On 13/09/2013 21:35, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
> >> On 13.09.2013 14:14, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >>> On 13/09/2013 12:10, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
> >>>> Hi people,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am about to update KDE from 4.10.4 to 4.11.1.
> >>>> Is it possible to avoid installing various nepomuks and akonadis which
> >>>
> >>> No
> >>
> >> Pity.
> >>
> >>>> appear to be required now? I have set USE=-semantic-desktop but it
> >>>> doesn't seem to help.
> > While the USE flag has disappeared, you could try putting nepomuk and
> > akonadi into your package.provided file.
> >
> >>>> My current KDE installation is quite happy without that stuff (which
> >>>> also brings along tons of other crap).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The KDE maintainers posted quite extensively about this some time back.
> >>
> >> Some time back I heard that KDE devs were striving to make KDE more
> >> modular.
> > KDE upstream is, yes, and how this will affect semantic-desktop remains
> > to be seen.
>
> so there is hope? ;)
>
> >>> It is too hard to try and extract semantic-desktop out of the KDE build
> >>> whilst not breaking everything else. What you now do is allow the stuff
> >>> to be built, and disable the function in System Settings.
> >>
> >> Well why wasn't it too hard before? It's not quite obvious why one's got
> >> to "extract" some additional functionality, as opposed to including it
> >> when needed. A strange approach, all in all.
> > The decision to remove the USE flag happened mostly because it maintain,
> > and was in general not well supported anyway.
> >
> > There have been a number of proposals about the situation: do nothing,
> > do a full revert, or implement some compromise. I would hope that we
> > make a final decision about this before stabilising any 4.11 version.
>
> Clear, then I'll opt to wait for the stable 4.11.
>
> >> BTW, it seems that mysql is also a hard dependency for QT now. At least,
> >> the average joe can't be scorned any more for not having a "server". Hey
> >> to all localhost admins! :)
> > That shouldn't be the case. The default akonadi backend is mysql, why
> > could explain why it's being pulled in.
>
> Yes, really, I was mislead, it is qtsql which requires setting the mysql
> flag, but I missed that it was due to akonadi.

IIRC you can substitute mysql with sqlite by changing useflags. mysql seems the
be the default though...

WKR
Hinnerk

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