From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4491381F3 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E77BE0D1B; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:59:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from schplaf.org (schplaf.org [80.67.176.235]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2682EE0B07 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filip.loria.fr (filip.loria.fr [152.81.13.236]) (Authenticated sender: slash) by schplaf.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF4161087 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:59:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:59:19 +0200 From: Jean-Christophe Bach To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative Message-ID: <20130821155919.GA10259@filip.loria.fr> References: <20130820151232.GA2420@artifex> <5214D32A.8030801@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5214D32A.8030801@gentoo.org> X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE9324BDEC124FF27 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 72cb5177-be54-4c51-8b68-5b8bf971759e X-Archives-Hash: 0e14721a637c940a21d40eab66347410 --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * hasufell [21.08.2013. @16:48:10 +0200]: > On 08/20/2013 05:12 PM, Randy Westlund wrote: > > I've heard several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that= it's not in the portage tree. > >=20 >=20 > Jitsi is written in java and thus by design buggy, bloated and hard to > maintain. What a categorical opinion! Developers are writing code and are making bugs, whatever the language they use. I am pretty sure I am able to write buggy, bloated and hard to maintain with Haskell, Ada, Java or any other language=E2=80=A6 It is really easy to criticize the programming language instead of reviewing the development methods. The main problem of writing an ebuild for a Java application comes from bad habits in the Java world: people are usually distributing all libraries and the program in a big ball of mud. It is great for Windows users or for users who do not use a real packages manager, but it needs lot of work to have clean packages. Regards, JC --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSFOPXAAoJEOkyS97BJP8nxiIP/2p16kq7vtoMA1hZ4T0ULxFH j4I+6+pTSrdPFQQ06gF01hQMDHL5d4mwS+2IPW6mTEwUAyCf3RBGugGwcbpo6uFc GZ5PDsK9xxEZWtrUWYNzcjw31hbEvjv9bYAcPHGtt0/mpMXAlc3EY7t2Tj2xxYwg 74hXr71gCsSj2mibDllLYyiJY3sKdMQp4jtJaP8sAwVp9PcatZs5o7nrT/S9hMmL mxsGnXisGDMBeItyeCKG9fNYUvntAPO6YZKnPOcwygHzYE4KBqMoZsEj31wL5Sn9 uchTZ7oHm6OhceCYR8VEi46Jhc+G8Xx5v/3BoHgu+En5gTNVfOmWquP7WK1D2MU+ YwJ1Jmhh9lGxAQY2KHMsxR9QqXJ7y5Z2KBD6Rpj/2NzKap+XRYg9hZJgrBWzX2aJ qcEpXT9Tg6WHkIFVqqaTEBcrU18Garmo1a5CJZp61ZugIt0tssMmH1q7Ehap52+g QvEQLlsg1ghIp8iP679g3vhIYk9n9dfY1Ye3cm6kZrjs3pLTcJ/NOa3meeO+j2w2 A7K2Le0xq3Y8HWqdvO4yXrD3KOpW587iSc7HsN63yweXFPlnbWFXAdE7kBvX9E2L er+zicP6aOzWu4xvH6eTb3VGTo0yjaXG9sSoZQQ6U9lhXnqAg4txDC+Dl9QjWH53 naCIukLSG3FZ6XC7+tZP =Gwbb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua--