From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D23F1381F3 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44A64E0AA9; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23845E09B9 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:58:54 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,800,1367967600"; d="scan'208";a="27208916" Received: from unknown (HELO rathaus.eclipse.co.uk) ([109.176.183.237]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 02 Aug 2013 11:58:54 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 12:00:04 +0100 From: "Steven J. Long" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Moving from old udev to eudev Message-ID: <20130802110004.GC2833@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <51FA8CB6.60000@libertytrek.org> <51FAEEC6.9000006@iinet.net.au> <51FAF26C.2040107@gentoo.org> <20130802010100.GA31096@waltdnes.org> <51FB133F.3040409@gentoo.org> <51FB1DF5.8050802@gmail.com> <51FB2102.50102@gentoo.org> <51FB24BE.8020401@iinet.net.au> <51FB59DE.7030000@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51FB59DE.7030000@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: a5d24a8c-c50a-4b4d-8e4a-9650fb5a3d78 X-Archives-Hash: b5fffa1ed3df34b8b61267af4a119d48 Samuli Suominen wrote: > FUD again. The backwards compability is still all there and udev can be > built standalone and ran standalone. Sorry I'm going to call "bullshit" on this one. You know damn well "upstream" moved udev into systemd, promising everyone it would be possible to continue to build just udev, and then changed that with weasel words into "build everything and extract udev". So you cannot "build udev standalone" any more, as you state. You have to build systemd and then extract the udev stuff you actually want. You don't like other projects bundling dependencies, but somehow it's ok for systemd. Utter tripe. > And on the contrary, there was no need for sys-fs/eudev to remove > support for sys-fs/systemd when it could have supported both > sys-apps/systemd and sys-apps/openrc like sys-fs/udev does without issues. Huh? WTF would be the point, when systemd bundles udev? We already have loads of people on the forums having issues with conflicts between sys-apps/systemd and sys-fs/udev, so again your point is total nonsense. None of which detracts from for your sterling work on Gentoo, and the support you provide to users on various media. -- #friendly-coders -- We're friendly, but we're not /that/ friendly ;-)