From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7B31381F3 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F317AE0AAA; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f43.google.com (mail-pa0-f43.google.com [209.85.220.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9E9CE0A9A for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id hz10so1007602pad.2 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:43:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=C0ui9qWFbFHWcyfqw8imlC0SNLNZPctAncg9ErBuwyI=; b=02to0lZWAz9g7cZ9ICyTtFQpcYhcE+v8rHlimq9Zu16/WCbD5kTyKY54xUmM/TXXNp 8OXCuhpT2/OPQkDA5bljMsSDFMfGXFpJdpKkcIDs6WPEAfORObjf+jwUWUHPWBmxYjCm xxsnp4N9URx+qt2WFdyKA3NKYP7mkxUVhoqt4r96EvW4PDpGcdPd4AhlgzpusvGR51C7 bUnYz/rw1q8N+cjEqAGdy3WhbD71lb9uG49KsxwNja5U1mL672/2YOvNvF0cbsJXctGZ XyCqY9lLvaVj1Jqv/EKnDVQd9dE1LhWwTePbGIeLn+CYCsqiR6gcdM5RsktcWKtdf8Xg r/oQ== X-Received: by 10.68.212.106 with SMTP id nj10mr80880641pbc.74.1375285432681; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (triband-mum-59.182.109.50.mtnl.net.in. [59.182.109.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qp10sm3105638pab.13.2013.07.31.08.43.50 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 21:15:17 +0530 From: Yohan Pereira To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation Message-ID: <20130731154517.GA16921@dethkomp> References: <3017.1375206780@ccs.covici.com> <6349.1375221843@ccs.covici.com> <51F8F63E.9020705@libertytrek.org> <20130731132227.5e582ee7@digimed.co.uk> <51F9034E.7040204@libertytrek.org> <51F92CC0.2060504@libertytrek.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <51F92CC0.2060504@libertytrek.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 39c00338-d5da-4706-adc4-ccb846f55024 X-Archives-Hash: fdba4bd356c35b60ff364c498fc229ae On 31/07/13 at 11:26am, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-07-31 11:20 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > If you don't use the systemd USE flag (and never install anything that > > depends on systemd), you will not get systemd installed, but many > > packages will install systemd unit files in /urs/lib/systemd/system. > > This unit files are little non-executable files which do nothing in > > your system, but some people feel really strongly about having > > anything in their machines with *systemd* in its path. If you want to > > exorcise those unit files, add /usr/lib/systemd/system to > > INSTALL_MASK. > > Ok, thanks Canek... but my last question remains... if this really is > going to be the only and one true way to opt out of systemd, shouldn't > this be well documented in the man page, as opposed to just generic > references to masking 'files'...? The "one true way" is to set -systemd in your useflags. However anything that hard depends on systemd will pull it in like AFAIR gnome. Trying to opt-out of systemd in these cases is not supported and probably not trivial. The install_mask is just for preventing certain tiny files that certain packages install that let them be used by a init sytstem like the scripts in init.d in the case of openrc and unit files in the case of systemd. ALl this will do is help you save few kbs of disk space. It wont help you get rid of systemd in cases where its required like in the case of gnome. -- - Yohan Pereira The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and a seal. -- Mark Twain