From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CDB11381F3 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A35B8E0ACE; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A21EFE0AC5 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C2C33EA96 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:36:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.653 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.653 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.108, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.544, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X-gLs_4UZQQp for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AC5D33BF0D for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:36:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V4YSB-0008BX-40 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:36:43 +0200 Received: from wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net ([174.76.82.7]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:36:43 +0200 Received: from boxcars by wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:36:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-systemd-only deprecation Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:36:31 -0500 Organization: none Message-ID: <20130731103631.55c03b76@fuchsia.remarqs.net> References: <57299332.XkTIeZ2QOq@melforce> <3017.1375206780@ccs.covici.com> <6349.1375221843@ccs.covici.com> <51F8F63E.9020705@libertytrek.org> <20130731132227.5e582ee7@digimed.co.uk> <51F9034E.7040204@libertytrek.org> <20130731124102.GA12465@dethkomp> <51F92C19.7010001@libertytrek.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Archives-Salt: e7c1c416-d186-4eec-a1d3-567426de6f24 X-Archives-Hash: 24146c9006a7ec4d1130b2403524d8cb On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:24:09 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-07-31 8:41 AM, Yohan Pereira wrote: > > On 31/07/13 at 08:30am, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> So, how should this be used to 'opt out of systemd completely'? > > > > from main make.conf > > "Use this variable if you want to selectively prevent certain > > files from being copied into your file system tree. .." > > > > You can use it to prevent ebuilds from installing unit files > > or open-rc scripts from doing so (based on what you want to opt-out > > of). > > Well, no offense, but that is gobbledy-greek to non programmers. > > I would have no idea *how* to 'prevent ebuilds from installing unit > files...'. > > If this really is 'the one true way' to 'totally opt out of systemd', > then in my opinion there should be a very thorough example of *how* > to 'opt out of systemd' included in the man page. I'd rather not see man make.conf cluttered with trivia, but maybe it would be nice if there were a unified "choosing a system manager" document which had recipes for avoiding the little files from other systems.