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On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:24:09 -0400
Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org> wrote:

> On 2013-07-31 8:41 AM, Yohan Pereira <yohan.pereira@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 31/07/13 at 08:30am, Tanstaafl wrote:  
> >> So, how should this be used to 'opt out of systemd completely'?  
> >
> > from main make.conf
> > "Use this variable if you want  to  selectively  prevent  certain
> >   files  from  being copied into your file system tree. .."
> >
> > You can  use it to prevent ebuilds from installing unit files
> > or open-rc scripts from doing so (based on what you want to opt-out
> > of).  
> 
> Well, no offense, but that is gobbledy-greek to non programmers.
> 
> I would have no idea *how* to 'prevent ebuilds from installing unit 
> files...'.
> 
> If this really is 'the one true way' to 'totally opt out of systemd', 
> then in my opinion there should be a very thorough example of *how*
> to 'opt out of systemd' included in the man page.

I'd rather not see man make.conf cluttered with trivia, but maybe it
would be nice if there were a unified "choosing a system manager"
document which had recipes for avoiding the little files from other
systems.