Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is so AWESOME

[Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com>]

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 07:48:19PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 07/30/2013 02:16 PM, hasufell wrote:
> > And we need MOAR devs
> > 
> > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2
> > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs
> > 
> > so awesome! srsly!
> > 
> > What many people don't seem to get is: you don't need to be a commit
> > monkey doing your 100+ commits per week.
> > Our minimum rate of commits is pretty low before you actually are forced
> > to retire.
> > 
> > Better have a lot of devs each one focussing on a few packages than
> > having few devs working on the entire tree and messing up things randomly.
> > 
> > It's not that much work, just some regular attention. You want to join!
> > 
> 
> (old rant)
> 
> I would like to become a developer. I already proxy maintain a few
> packages, and have a few more in sunrise that I could take care of. I
> could also triage bugs in my spare time.
> 
> But, there's no process to do so.
> 
> I want to become a dev, what's my next step? There is none. Help out,
> and maybe someone will notice you? Ok, I'm on it. Been doing it for
> years, and I know several other people in the same situation. It doesn't
> work, and recruitment numbers are plummeting.
> 
> There needs to be an explicit, documented process. And someone devoted
> full-time to mentoring new recruits. I can think of no better long-term
> investment of the foundation's money.

Let me second this post. Some months ago after much prodding by someone high
up in the Gentoo organization, I tried to take the $PATH. Michael's post above
is, IMO, _very_ kind considering what I went through. In the middle of my
_tests_ the whole system broke down.

For 7 years before coming to Gentoo I was with Slackware. Never wanting any
public recognition, most of my patches just went straight to the #2 guy. Pat
did sometimes name me in ChangeLogs, but mostly I was allowed to contribute in
the background.

Gentoo could use an overhaul, especially in the area of communication skills,
_most_ especially for those devs whose first language is _not_ English.

Just my 2c ... no time atm anyway ... RL demands me to make $ for bills.

Don't take my quick, casual comments as criticism of Gentoo as a GNU/Linux
distro. For those who have some knowledge, it's far and above the best! But
the foundation needs to take a look into revamping this area.

Cheers,
Bruce
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