From: "Steven J. Long" <slong@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 03:17:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130724021751.GB1792@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51EDA7DB.90900@gmail.com>
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> dbus is NOT a desktop daemon. This is very important, and that single
> misunderstanding is probably behind all the fud you read about it.
>
> dbus implements a message bus - an amazingly useful thing to have.
>
> Why do you need or want a message bus?
>
> You might as well ask why do you need or want any other form of IPC you
> already have, as that is what dbus is. It's a very small, light daemon,
> can run system-wide or per-session and has the potential to many of the
> IPC implementations you already have. Those are the ones that don't
> happen to show up in ps so you hear very little whinging about them.
You might as well just use the existing IPC mechanisms too, especially on a
server. Oh wait, that would take experience and the humility borne of it.
> That desktop systems are the main user of dbus at this point in time
> doesn't change one bit what dbus is designed to do and it's usefulness.
Actually it was designed to be a desktop bus. That its mission has crept, or
arguably the "developer" has made a land-grab, doesn't change that.
Note I am not saying anything at all about the technical merits of dbus itself.
I actually quite like the base protocol, just not all the crap on top of it.
Kinda how I feel about the Java VM, fwtw.
Regards,
steveL
--
#friendly-coders -- We're friendly, but we're not /that/ friendly ;-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-24 2:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-22 20:42 [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script FredL
2013-07-22 20:54 ` Paul Hartman
2013-07-22 21:13 ` FredL
2013-07-22 21:35 ` FredL
2013-07-22 21:44 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-22 22:02 ` FredL
2013-07-22 22:08 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-22 22:45 ` FredL
2013-07-23 0:13 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-23 7:43 ` FredL
2013-07-23 11:06 ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-23 12:02 ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-23 12:20 ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-23 14:22 ` FredL
2013-07-24 2:17 ` Steven J. Long [this message]
2013-07-24 9:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2013-07-24 9:39 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-24 17:51 ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-07-24 19:37 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-24 20:18 ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-07-24 21:04 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-27 18:28 ` [gentoo-user] Reinventing the wheel Steven J. Long
2013-07-24 17:32 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script Steven J. Long
2013-07-26 19:59 ` [gentoo-user] " Markus Kaindl
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