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From: "Steven J. Long" <slong@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 03:17:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130724021751.GB1792@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51EDA7DB.90900@gmail.com>

Alan McKinnon wrote:
> dbus is NOT a desktop daemon. This is very important, and that single
> misunderstanding is probably behind all the fud you read about it.
> 
> dbus implements a message bus - an amazingly useful thing to have.
> 
> Why do you need or want a message bus?
> 
> You might as well ask why do you need or want any other form of IPC you
> already have, as that is what dbus is. It's a very small, light daemon,
> can run system-wide or per-session and has the potential to many of the
> IPC implementations you already have. Those are the ones that don't
> happen to show up in ps so you hear very little whinging about them.

You might as well just use the existing IPC mechanisms too, especially on a
server. Oh wait, that would take experience and the humility borne of it.

> That desktop systems are the main user of dbus at this point in time
> doesn't change one bit what dbus is designed to do and it's usefulness.

Actually it was designed to be a desktop bus. That its mission has crept, or
arguably the "developer" has made a land-grab, doesn't change that.

Note I am not saying anything at all about the technical merits of dbus itself.
I actually quite like the base protocol, just not all the crap on top of it.
Kinda how I feel about the Java VM, fwtw.

Regards,
steveL
-- 
#friendly-coders -- We're friendly, but we're not /that/ friendly ;-)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-24  2:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-22 20:42 [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script FredL
2013-07-22 20:54 ` Paul Hartman
2013-07-22 21:13   ` FredL
2013-07-22 21:35     ` FredL
2013-07-22 21:44       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-22 22:02         ` FredL
2013-07-22 22:08           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-22 22:45             ` FredL
2013-07-23  0:13               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-07-23  7:43                 ` FredL
2013-07-23 11:06             ` Tanstaafl
2013-07-23 12:02               ` Bruce Hill
2013-07-23 12:20               ` Yohan Pereira
2013-07-23 14:22                 ` FredL
2013-07-24  2:17         ` Steven J. Long [this message]
2013-07-24  9:02           ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2013-07-24  9:39             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-24 17:51               ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-07-24 19:37                 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-24 20:18                   ` [gentoo-user] " Steven J. Long
2013-07-24 21:04                     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-07-27 18:28                       ` [gentoo-user] Reinventing the wheel Steven J. Long
2013-07-24 17:32             ` [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script Steven J. Long
2013-07-26 19:59       ` [gentoo-user] " Markus Kaindl

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