From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607561381F3 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 574C6E0A68; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3603CE0929 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (66-208-231-133.ubr01a.rte20201.pa.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [66.208.231.133]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M0hPy-1UA7Tp31SQ-00uoTw; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:31:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:31:06 -0500 From: Bruce Hill To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager Message-ID: <20130716123106.GE3387@server> References: <51E43EDE.3090905@gmail.com> <20130716121623.GC26797@ns1.bonedaddy.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20130716121623.GC26797@ns1.bonedaddy.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:/OAlc6AxtH/Xa5OQhJulMifgvqfRWEO1aINQI/2hlLC q7jYex9D8ASX+C/pk6av/03s+LBsA4d//NHyweyCGMUpBMfu6s iIiV6KQ/wOyn7nTxFDImZsqiCKgFJmEHdeA285g5DgvuJtuTJ2 vM+YqpNEeL/kOlXgIBDFYRcIVfpr8xMvxuZ19ZehiCiLsHXrGH UKb8AcA2bAVkKyCOTtqNAFt3oRMVFcvdbVJWTLU7CR29voYVCt /eqJ266cPNhcxUEHVrxvcvpM37gah3hwyz1874sYXxo5coJDWN SEQZ8Lz26egU1oGJzfKaOIUeJ9DYTZJ6zhGrGadGstQHQ9oOZH sL3TppZDCdXCcWJuuFjU= X-Archives-Salt: 51ed6376-875c-46f5-99e0-b15dc7afd98c X-Archives-Hash: 8109941c32518cfeb6364c9bc727fd38 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:16:23AM -0400, Todd Goodman wrote: > * Canek Peláez Valdés [130715 15:09]: > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > unmerge nm and everything associated with it. > > > Comment out all lines in /etc/conf.d/net > > > > > > emerge wicd with the USE flags of your choice. > > > > > > All your problems will instantly go away, stay away, and wicd will do > > > the right thing always for networking. I promise. > > > > If the problem is that the user is not in the plugdev group, it will > > also happen with wicd, which makes this one of the worsts pieces of > > advice I have seen in this list. Which is a lot to say. > > Hardly > > > > > > networkmanager is a horribly broken piece of shit that per user reports > > > never seems to actually work for people. > > > > It works for me. In all kind of networks in several continents, with > > all kind of WEP, WPA, and WPA2 networks, connecting through my > > cellphone and obviously with ethernet too. > > It seems to work for very simple network setups that don't change often. > > > > > Funny you said that Alan, when was the last time you heard about a > > problem with NM in the list? I count less than 20 mails *mentioning* > > NM in the list in 2013, and none of them are (IIRC) direct problems > > with NM. > > Most of us who have found out how horrible NM is have stopped using it > long ago so you don't see us posting with problems. > > > > > > You should not use software like that. > > > > You should do a little more research before saying something like that > > about a piece of software that just works most of the time. > > As long as we're telling people what to do I'll tell you to step out > of your ivory tower once in a while to get a broader picture of the > world. > > Todd ack! -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ support@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting