Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager

[Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com>]

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:16:23AM -0400, Todd Goodman wrote:
> * Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> [130715 15:09]:
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > unmerge nm and everything associated with it.
> > > Comment out all lines in /etc/conf.d/net
> > >
> > > emerge wicd with the USE flags of your choice.
> > >
> > > All your problems will instantly go away, stay away, and wicd will do
> > > the right thing always for networking. I promise.
> > 
> > If the problem is that the user is not in the plugdev group, it will
> > also happen with wicd, which makes this one of the worsts pieces of
> > advice I have seen in this list. Which is a lot to say.
> 
> Hardly
> 
> > 
> > > networkmanager is a horribly broken piece of shit that per user reports
> > > never seems to actually work for people.
> > 
> > It works for me. In all kind of networks in several continents, with
> > all kind of WEP, WPA, and WPA2 networks, connecting through my
> > cellphone and obviously with ethernet too.
> 
> It seems to work for very simple network setups that don't change often.
> 
> > 
> > Funny you said that Alan, when was the last time you heard about a
> > problem with NM in the list? I count less than 20 mails *mentioning*
> > NM in the list in 2013, and none of them are (IIRC) direct problems
> > with NM.
> 
> Most of us who have found out how horrible NM is have stopped using it
> long ago so you don't see us posting with problems.
> 
> > 
> > > You should not use software like that.
> > 
> > You should do a little more research before saying something like that
> > about a piece of software that just works most of the time.
> 
> As long as we're telling people what to do I'll tell you to step out
> of your ivory tower once in a while to get a broader picture of the
> world.
> 
> Todd

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