[gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?

[gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?

[Peter Humphrey]

Sorry to be a nuisance but I can't think of where else to ask.

On the website I run I have a link to our Twitter profile (or whatever it's 
called). This is the link:

	https://twitter.com/TideswellMVC

If I examine the page using the web host's file editor I see exactly that, 
yet if I press CTRL-U in www-client/firefox-17.0.7 it shows this:

	https://twitter.com/#%21/TideswellMVC

and if I click the link in the main window I'm asked for a login and 
password.

Trying the latest Windows version of Firefox in an XP virtual box I get the 
unaltered link. I can't tell what version that is because "About Firefox" 
merely checks, then tells me I'm up to date.

Incidentally, I have a web server running on my LAN with an identical copy 
of the site. Using that as the target, rather than the public version, gives 
the same results.

I haven't used JavaScript anywhere.

What's going on here?

-- 
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?

[Kevin Thompson]

On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:29, Peter Humphrey <peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> wrote:

> Sorry to be a nuisance but I can't think of where else to ask.
> 
> On the website I run I have a link to our Twitter profile (or whatever it's 
> called). This is the link:
> 
>    https://twitter.com/TideswellMVC
> 
> If I examine the page using the web host's file editor I see exactly that, 
> yet if I press CTRL-U in www-client/firefox-17.0.7 it shows this:
> 
>    https://twitter.com/#%21/TideswellMVC
> 
> and if I click the link in the main window I'm asked for a login and 
> password.
> 
> Trying the latest Windows version of Firefox in an XP virtual box I get the 
> unaltered link. I can't tell what version that is because "About Firefox" 
> merely checks, then tells me I'm up to date.
> 
> Incidentally, I have a web server running on my LAN with an identical copy 
> of the site. Using that as the target, rather than the public version, gives 
> the same results.
> 
> I haven't used JavaScript anywhere.
> 
> What's going on here?
> 
> -- 
> Peter
> 
> 

What architecture are you running this on? What USE flags are enabled with Firefox?

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday 04 Jul 2013 18:43:26 Kevin Thompson wrote:

> What architecture are you running this on? What USE flags are enabled
> with Firefox?

This is amd64 stable.

$ emerge -pv firefox

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies  .. .. .... done!
[ebuild   R    ] www-client/firefox-17.0.7  USE="alsa dbus jit libnotify 
startup-notification -bindist -custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug -
gstreamer -minimal (-pgo) (-selinux) -system-sqlite -wifi" LINGUAS="en_GB -af 
-ak -ar -as -ast -be -bg -bn_BD -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el 
-en_ZA -eo -es_AR -es_CL -es_ES -es_MX -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -fy_NL -ga_IE -gd 
-gl -gu_IN -he -hi_IN -hr -hu -hy_AM -id -is -it -ja -kk -km -kn -ko -ku -lg 
-lt -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr -nb_NO -nl -nn_NO -nso -or -pa_IN -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT 
-rm -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -son -sq -sr -sv_SE -ta -ta_LK -te -th -tr -uk -vi -
zh_CN -zh_TW -zu" 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

-- 
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?

[Paul Hartman]

On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Peter Humphrey
<peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> wrote:
> Sorry to be a nuisance but I can't think of where else to ask.
>
> On the website I run I have a link to our Twitter profile (or whatever it's
> called). This is the link:
>
>         https://twitter.com/TideswellMVC
>
> If I examine the page using the web host's file editor I see exactly that,
> yet if I press CTRL-U in www-client/firefox-17.0.7 it shows this:
>
>         https://twitter.com/#%21/TideswellMVC
>
> and if I click the link in the main window I'm asked for a login and
> password.

Very strange!

> Trying the latest Windows version of Firefox in an XP virtual box I get the
> unaltered link. I can't tell what version that is because "About Firefox"
> merely checks, then tells me I'm up to date.

The latest release of Firefox is version 22.0, however version 17 is
the latest "Extended Support Release" and coincidentally also the
latest stable version in Gentoo. The url "about:" will show the
version information in Firefox (and most other browsers). If you want
to ensure you are comparing apples to apples, you can download the
version 17 ESR Windows installer from:
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all.html

> Incidentally, I have a web server running on my LAN with an identical copy
> of the site. Using that as the target, rather than the public version, gives
> the same results.
>
> I haven't used JavaScript anywhere.
>
> What's going on here?

I don't know, but here is what I am thinking:

A) Does it do the same if you use a different browser? opera or
google-chrome are binaries and don't require any compilation, so they
might be fast to emerge if you haven't got any other browsers
installed. You could also simply use wget or curl to fetch a copy of
the page and look at it in a text editor.

If other browsers experience the same thing, go to C)

B) I would first try to rule out a configuration or plug-in/add-on
causing the issue. On the Firefox "Help" menu there is an option to
restart with add-ons disabled. This will restart Firefox in "safe
mode". Please be aware that it also gives you an option to "Reset
Firefox" -- this will reset it to factory default configuration, while
supposedly preserving your personal information. I have not actually
tried that so I would backup your profile beforehand just in case it
goes off the rails. Once you're in safe mode, simply quitting firefox
and reopening it will bring it back to normal mode again.

If safe mode doesn't help, I would try creating a new profile. You can
do this without any effect on your existing profile. Start firefox
from shell prompt by "firefox -P" to launch the profile manager.
Alternatively, you could login using a different user on your machine.

C) If browser or settings don't make a difference, I would ask if
you're using any sort of proxy or ad-blocker/parental control/spam
filter on your network. That might be silently altering the pages in
an unintended way. Also, some employers, ISPs and governments perform
content modification on HTTP requests to insert ads or block
disallowed URLs. If your web server supports HTTPS I would try
fetching the page using that to see if it is the same. That should
eliminate the possibility of outside interference as far as
manipulation of the page contents goes.

D) If this is a website you created, I would ask if you might have
your /etc/hosts file pointing at a different server's IP. I have seen
a similar problem where someone had their domain name on their web
development laptop pointing to a test server rather than the live
public server. That's probably not the case since you've experienced
the same problem on your local web server, but I thought I would
mention it just in case it might spark any ideas if everything else
failed to work.

Good luck,
Paul

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Friday 05 Jul 2013 03:40:23 Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Peter Humphrey
> 
> <peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> wrote:
> > Sorry to be a nuisance but I can't think of where else to ask.
> > 
> > On the website I run I have a link to our Twitter profile (or whatever
> > it's called). This is the link:
> >         https://twitter.com/TideswellMVC
> > 
> > If I examine the page using the web host's file editor I see exactly
> > that,
> > 
> > yet if I press CTRL-U in www-client/firefox-17.0.7 it shows this:
> >         https://twitter.com/#%21/TideswellMVC
> > 
> > and if I click the link in the main window I'm asked for a login and
> > password.
> 
> Very strange!

Indeed so. Now here's where I eat humble pie. I ran an emerge -e world 
overnight (for other reasons) and now I can't reproduce the strangeness[1]. 
Firefox now behaves as it should.

I can only apologise to you Paul, and to anyone else who put as much effort 
as you did into helping me with what turns out to have been a red herring.

--->8

Now for some strong coffee...

[1]	Perhaps I shouldn't mention Konsole, of which I have four instances on 
one desktop. In two of them, turning the mouse wheel scrolls the output as 
expected, but in the other two it scrolls the command-line buffer! I assume 
this is just one more artefact of the mess that is KDE these days.

-- 
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?

[Yohan Pereira]

On 05/07/13 at 10:28am, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 [1]	Perhaps I shouldn't mention Konsole, of which I have four instances on 
> one desktop. In two of them, turning the mouse wheel scrolls the output as 
> expected, but in the other two it scrolls the command-line buffer! I assume 
> this is just one more artefact of the mess that is KDE these days.

I notice this behaviour when konsole has no output to scroll, it scrolls
the command-line buffer. I guess that's normal.

-- 

- Yohan Pereira

The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference
between a mermaid and a seal.
                -- Mark Twain

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Friday 05 Jul 2013 13:43:39 Yohan Pereira wrote:
> On 05/07/13 at 10:28am, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >  [1]	Perhaps I shouldn't mention Konsole, of which I have four
> > instances on
> > one desktop. In two of them, turning the mouse wheel scrolls the output
> > as expected, but in the other two it scrolls the command-line buffer!
> > I assume this is just one more artefact of the mess that is KDE these
> > days.
> 
> I notice this behaviour when konsole has no output to scroll, it scrolls
> the command-line buffer. I guess that's normal.

Well, what do you know? You learn something new every day - if you're not 
careful!

Thanks Yohan.

-- 
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] What's up with Firefox?

[Paul Hartman]

On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Peter Humphrey <peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> wrote:
> Perhaps I shouldn't mention Konsole, of which I have four instances on
> one desktop. In two of them, turning the mouse wheel scrolls the output as
> expected, but in the other two it scrolls the command-line buffer! I assume
> this is just one more artefact of the mess that is KDE these days.

Looks like this 5-year-old bug has other people wondering/complaining
about it, too:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170582