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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] mutt configuration advice
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 12:55:54 +0100
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On Tuesday 28 May 2013 02:39:11 Walter Dnes wrote:
> First, let's look at what mutt *ISN'T*. It's not a singing-dancing
> all-inclusive "integrated" monstrosity. It reads email, writes email,
> and hands it off to your local MTA for delivery. In addition to mutt I
> also need "getmail" (or equivalant), procmail, and "ssmtp" (or
> equivalant). And the organization of my inboxes controls mutt, not visa
> versa. =20
I appreciate that this is/was the starting point of mutt, but over the year=
s=20
I understand that mutt has added smtp and is able to use IMAP or POP server=
s=20
directly. So, am I right to assume that it is not only a simple file reade=
r=20
any more.
I have successfully used it with an IMAP server and was able to send and=20
receive, but I'm not entirely sure how to replicate my Gmail settings from=
=20
Kmail (it errors out, crashes, etc.)
> My setup here at home...
>=20
> I can receive email from 3 sources...
> my personal domain MX
> my Google account
> my ADSL ISP
> my emergency backup dialup account
>=20
> I use maildir format storage. I run a script that calls getmail for
> each account. getmail passes the emails to procmail, which passes the
> emails to the appropriate inboxes. I set up a separate inbox for each
> mailing last or group that I belong to.
>=20
> mutt reads the email. It "sends" to ssmtp, which is a very simplified
> sendmail. All it does is push the email out the door to my ISP's MTA,
> which does the real work. I dislike only one thing about ssmtp. It
> *INSISTS* on installing "sendmail" symlinks in 3 or 4 different
> locations, all pointing back to /usr/sbin/ssmtp. My most embarressing
> moment as a user was when a chatty daemon started sending a bunch of
> stuff to "root@" my ISP. I did not appreciate that. After that, I
> tightened down what stuff gets sent where by daemons, and set up a
> script that wipes the symlinks. I have to rerun it after each ssmtp
> update.
Are you sure about this? I do not have sendmail installed, but do have ssm=
tp. =20
There are symlinks from sendmail to ssmtp, so that various programs that ca=
ll=20
sendmail can eventually use ssmtp to send out their messages:
$ ls -la /usr/sbin/sendmail=20
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Jul 9 2011 /usr/sbin/sendmail -> ssmtp
BTW, I have configured ssmpt to send out messages from root (cron job resul=
ts)=20
through Gmail, using my gmail account credentials. Will I need to alter th=
is=20
to be able to send out messages from mutt through different smtp relays?
Another question: how do you manage your address book?
I would need email address autocompletion of some sort and I would also nee=
d=20
it to be able to pull in the appropriate public gpg or S/MIME key for the=20
intended recipient and my corresponding private key(s) depending on the=20
account that I am sending from.
=2D-=20
Regards,
Mick
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