From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD47138830 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FC4121C09E; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86CCB21C097 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9826D33DD56 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:08:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.232 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.232 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.856, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.375, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vsjrkpLfcPzb for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 896FA33DB46 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U24vb-0000hu-R2 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 20:08:35 +0100 Received: from wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net ([174.76.82.7]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 20:08:35 +0100 Received: from boxcars by wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 20:08:35 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: =?UTF-8?B?wrtRwqs=?= Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: udev-191 bit me. Insufficient ptys Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:08:31 -0600 Organization: none Message-ID: <20130203130831.44766604@fuchsia.remarqs.net> References: <20130202162110.1623aaa5@weird.wonkology.org> <20130202211738.66a72582@khamul.example.com> <20130203185145.4008d87f@weird.wonkology.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: wsip-174-76-82-7.no.no.cox.net X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.12; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Archives-Salt: 600a5151-aaa2-48a8-abf7-bda160ff4bb2 X-Archives-Hash: a23226153c82b5c44357ce5717e0a17f On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:51:45 +0100 Alex Schuster wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > > - news item > > There is one, from 2013-01-23, ending with 'Apologies if this news > came too late for you.' > > Okay, if that one came a little earlier, I would have been fine. I would have too. IMO, given the difficulties of putting in automagic checks and/or failures that would work for everyone, news items are the best way to handle info like this. I'm a bit concerned that there wasn't one earlier for udev-197-r*. AFAICT from the changelog, udev-197.ebuild hit the tree on 9 January, and the stabilization bug* for a later revision was filed on 16 January. The stabilization request makes it clear devs should not rush and should report any further issues they run across, yet udev-197-r3 was stabilized just a few days later, at which point stable users started hitting the issues. I'm not clear on why udev-197-r* needed stabilization without having ~arch keywords for a period. I rely on the kindness of ~arch testers who are willing to encounter the issues I later read about in a news item before an ebuild is stabilized. * https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452556