From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BC9138647 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 07:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6465021C0FF; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 07:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ea0-f175.google.com (mail-ea0-f175.google.com [209.85.215.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 953D721C02E for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 07:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ea0-f175.google.com with SMTP id d1so3737575eab.20 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:41:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FK6LVZ2g9/rf0Jd/iY0V12lcQie3vgNlJsGdZgNOBAs=; b=hNfamKQaxPIfX0jPrqlGefv8+2MDYM5DPXEAo2S3y8NT/wmbNUiIRn2WMbBFkcOLXL JLAjF4rUiopqJ84QdHhspotKcIQtmPff1X5xBquQkrznvLCTqheKMIsYsWtz8O7JX0wa AZmD7B0SHJ+XGqIbaNP5Coz2tA2RO2k8zT0PzUN37M2SMLh3yZ6IEi9eMk4vK6MijY9s BQSN+bYz3aue8nyhowaqsGDmCqAIV9dD/8gbKKh6V2UPl70+rTikbblul+WDeFtwSGTv 7R62+PHuGKnM8/0Hi9PzIjeGj846Gr//TBOU5PepArhL70QOdBlN5pKcWTEKNSGJLHif fZ2g== X-Received: by 10.14.177.1 with SMTP id c1mr3816129eem.8.1359013287186; Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-210-183-218.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.183.218]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a2sm34130077eeo.1.2013.01.23.23.41.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:41:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:40:52 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers Message-ID: <20130124094052.195fd6a6@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20130123141045.4b883a5f@fuchsia.remarqs.net> References: <20130120085143.GA1059@ca.inter.net> <201301201657.59592.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <20130122204114.6366c661@fuchsia.remarqs.net> <50FFC534.5060808@asyr.hopto.org> <20130123174533.64fae3f8@khamul.example.com> <20130123141045.4b883a5f@fuchsia.remarqs.net> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.14; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: d1e17f9a-f05f-414a-aea9-48f4b1627546 X-Archives-Hash: 4664755b024d66fb405264f6e3481d8a On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:10:45 -0600 =BBQ=AB wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:45:33 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: >=20 > [about udev and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=3Dy]=20 > > A news item about this is coming down the wire very soon now (aka > > within hours judging by the thread on -dev). >=20 > It's there now. Among other things, it mentions checking the /dev > entry in fstab, if there is one. I don't have one, but I'm curious. > Is it the udev-mount service in my default runlevel that makes it > unnecessary to have /dev in fstab? Also, what would be the reasons > for adding a /dev entry?=20 yes it's udev-mount: if ! grep -qs devtmpfs /proc/filesystems; then eerror "CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=3Dy is required in your kernel configuration" eerror "for this version of udev to run successfully." eerror "This requires immediate attention." if ! mountinfo -q /dev; then mount -n -t tmpfs dev /dev busybox mdev -s mkdir /dev/pts fi I don't see any good reason whatsoever to add /dev to fstab, unless you want to change the default mount options for some reason >=20 > > Unfortunately, it's too late for you now but at least many other > > users will see the message before they emerge world and save them > > some pain >=20 > Yeah. I use elogv to look at anything with warnings or errors after > an emerge, and I can't explain how I overlooked the bright red notice > this time. =20 >=20 > Normally, I follow this group and know what has come up for people > running ~arch (or if I don't *know*, I at least remember there's to > keep my eyes open for). But I've given up on following udev threads > here, which tend to get pretty noisy. >=20 > Of course there's no substitute for paying attention, but it's nice to > get a news item, even nicer if it comes before things hit stable. :-) I seem to have lost my virtual consoles recently, courtesy of udev-197 :-( Haven't figured out why yet, I suppose I'll have to read all those noisy udev threads again --=20 Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com