From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3465713864B for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8801F21C06C; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94D821C02E for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from digimed.co.uk (yooden.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.6]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 04BCA80B49 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:28:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:27:56 +0000 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How can I update *every* ebuild? Message-ID: <20130124092756.77ecab16@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5100FC12.5080808@gmail.com> References: <51003E73.2080201@gmail.com> <20130123212135.GO30998@server> <20130123222754.44b4bc13@digimed.co.uk> <20130123230111.GP30998@server> <20130123231510.107a6f55@digimed.co.uk> <20130123233719.GQ30998@server> <20130124083216.4b393db0@digimed.co.uk> <5100FC12.5080808@gmail.com> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0cvs59 (GTK+ 2.24.14; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/q5mMvl=37dN_EK70ar08Sij"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 346c0ca3-66fe-4dec-9d44-41f4b6d152ef X-Archives-Hash: 312f34a0154e77c6dfb3db4c3e59c4c2 --Sig_/q5mMvl=37dN_EK70ar08Sij Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 03:17:06 -0600, Dale wrote: > What Bruce was saying is this. When you use --ask, you can look at the > output of what packages are going to be emerged, what USE flags are > enabled/disabled/changed and other information that could make a person > change a setting all before anything is done. If emerge is doing to > much, to little or some other unwanted thing, you can change it. I understand that, but it is not relevant to my point. Using -N includes packages that do not need emerging. Either you let them emerge or you filter them out manually, either way is inefficient. Particularly the manual filtering as they will show up again on the next run. Bruce also posted a chained alias he uses, so having to interrupt the process top manually select packages means running the rest of the commands manually too. Like Alan says, trust portage to know your system, let it make the first decision before you review it with --ask. The option is there, I find it useful. I really don't care who else uses itWhat Bruce was saying is this. When you use --ask, you can look at the output of what packages are going to be emerged, what USE flags are enabled/disabled/changed and other information that could make a person change a setting all before anything is done. If emerge is doing to much, to little or some other unwanted thing, you can change it. , but I thought I'd mention it in came anyone still using its shotgun predecessor found the information useful. I am not trying to persuade anyone else to use it and you won't persuade me to stop using it, neither is the point of the post. It's just occurred to me as I was about to hit Send. If you respond to emerge --ask with n, it still returns success, so using that in the middle of a chin of commands is not much help unless you use Ctrl-C instead of n. --=20 Neil Bothwick I doubt therefore I might be. --Sig_/q5mMvl=37dN_EK70ar08Sij Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEA/qEACgkQum4al0N1GQNXjgCg0F1BOCFwUpvgW1j+jkBYiFnG grMAn0LI01MPAv4G3i1c1lahInrWMlML =Gh8r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/q5mMvl=37dN_EK70ar08Sij--