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From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 :  4  show-stoppers
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:19:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130123221934.3e206f7b@digimed.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130123110617.GA8460@pacific.net.au>

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:06:17 +1100, Gregory Shearman wrote:

> > That's fine if you see the message, which you should, and the system
> > does not suffer an unplanned reboot, which it shouldn't. But leaving a
> > system in a state that won't reboot following a crash or power
> > failure is not particularly clever, making the warnings fatal sounds
> > a safe default to me. As this is Gentoo there will always be a way to
> > turn the airbags off and even disable the brakes :)  

> I have all update messages emailed to me using:
> 
> PORTAGE_ELOG_*=<blah>

As do I.

> After every update I read every message that portage sends me and I act
> appropriately upon them.

As do I.

> BTW, My udev update went without a hitch. I had a revdep-rebuild to do
> for a libudev update and that was about it.

As did mine, but none of that has any real relevance to my previous
point. What if you have an unintentional reboot before you have had a
chance to read on and act on the message.

The point is that this update can render your machine unbootable, until
you take remedial action that you are only informed about after the
update. Effectively, that elog message is saying "I have just broken
your computer, you'd better fix it before you reboot!". 

> Even if you didn't see the message and your system didn't boot then you
> could still fix things by using your Minimal Install CD to start up,
> then chroot into your normal system and rebuild your kernel.

That remedy should be reserved for unforseen circumstances, not used as
an excuse for casual breakage.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

why do kamikazee pilots wear helmets?

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-23 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2013-01-23 11:06         ` [gentoo-user] Re: Udev-197 : 4 show-stoppers Gregory Shearman
2013-01-23 22:19           ` Neil Bothwick [this message]
2013-01-24  1:41           ` Peter Humphrey
2013-01-25  6:51           ` Daniel Wagener
2013-01-20  8:51 [gentoo-user] " Philip Webb
2013-01-20  9:29 ` victor romanchuk
2013-01-20 23:44   ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-01-21  0:17     ` Dale
2013-01-21  0:56       ` Bruce Hill
2013-01-21  3:28         ` Dale
2013-01-21  9:33         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-01-21  5:47       ` Walter Dnes
2013-01-21  9:57       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-21 19:36         ` Dale
2013-01-22  0:38           ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-22  4:06           ` Walter Dnes
2013-01-22  6:02             ` Pandu Poluan
2013-01-22  6:03             ` Dale
2013-01-20 16:57 ` [gentoo-user] " Peter Humphrey
2013-01-23  2:41   ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2013-01-23  8:29     ` Matthias Hanft
2013-01-23  9:05       ` Neil Bothwick
2013-01-23 11:10     ` Thanasis
2013-01-23 11:18       ` Thanasis
2013-01-23 15:45       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-23 20:10         ` »Q«
2013-01-24  2:20           ` Peter Humphrey
2013-01-24  7:40           ` Alan McKinnon

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