[gentoo-user] Gigabyte wont boot

[gentoo-user] Gigabyte wont boot

[James]

Hello,

First system build with a Gigabyte mobo. I never
got a "motherboard install book" and cannot seem 
to find any docs on installing a new 990FXA-UD3
with a FX8350 and ram installed. Everything is new
and I have built many PCs before....

I  got the new system put together
physically. I'm trying to boot into the bios.
The Blueray burner opens and closes and I put
the newest liveDVD inside but no boot. No signal
to the monitor.

The fans all run, the BR burner opens and closes, but
the motherboard will not boot. I first tried a
known good pci video card (ATI) and now a new fanless 
video card (ASUS Direct CU Silent Radeon HD 7750).
I tried different slots with the video cards.

Is there a listing of jumpers or other install
tips that I can find somewhere for this mobo?
I meticulously connected everything, as this is not
my first RODEO. I've never had a new mobo in the box without the
little install guide book.....bummer .....

ideas?    wikis?    docs?

James

Re: [gentoo-user] Gigabyte wont boot

[Dale]

James wrote:
> Hello,
>
> First system build with a Gigabyte mobo. I never
> got a "motherboard install book" and cannot seem 
> to find any docs on installing a new 990FXA-UD3
> with a FX8350 and ram installed. Everything is new
> and I have built many PCs before....
>
> I  got the new system put together
> physically. I'm trying to boot into the bios.
> The Blueray burner opens and closes and I put
> the newest liveDVD inside but no boot. No signal
> to the monitor.
>
> The fans all run, the BR burner opens and closes, but
> the motherboard will not boot. I first tried a
> known good pci video card (ATI) and now a new fanless 
> video card (ASUS Direct CU Silent Radeon HD 7750).
> I tried different slots with the video cards.
>
> Is there a listing of jumpers or other install
> tips that I can find somewhere for this mobo?
> I meticulously connected everything, as this is not
> my first RODEO. I've never had a new mobo in the box without the
> little install guide book.....bummer .....
>
> ideas?    wikis?    docs?
>
> James
>
>
>


I would start here:

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3996#manual

That should get you a manual.  That should help a bit anyway. 

Does it beep?  If so, is it the normal beep or a error code beep?  If
error code, then check to see if it sheds light on the problem.  I would
also unplug, give the connectors a good looking over then plug it back
up.  I'd do that for everything I could. 

It may also help to reset the BIOS too.  There should be a jumper pretty
close to the battery or just remove the battery for a little while,
overnight maybe.  It could be that it has some garbage or something in
it from sitting on a shelf, shipping jiggle etc etc. 

The only other thing I can think of, does the BIOS version support that
CPU?  I have always wondered what would happen if you put a CPU on a
mobo that the BIOS doesn't support but would with a newer BIOS.  I
*think* the BIOS version is on the box with the serial number and such. 

Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gigabyte wont boot

[James]

Dale <rdalek1967 <at> gmail.com> writes:



> http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3996#manual

I got a second identical mobo delivered today, so now I have
a book. Check the connectors to the Front panel, all is correct.
The mobo is Rev. 1.1. Swapped out ram, too, just to test.


> Does it beep?  

NO. Would that suggest a dead mobo? The little speaker is attached
but does not beep or anything...... The power supply is plugged into
the mobo correctly. It's a new power supply and cables.

> If so, is it the normal beep or a error code beep?  If
> error code, then check to see if it sheds light on the problem.  I would
> also unplug, give the connectors a good looking over then plug it back
> up.  I'd do that for everything I could. 

Yep, verified wiring 3 times. Might have a bad cable, so I'm going to replace
them all one at a time and see if that makes any difference. The mobo
is just not even trying to boot. No video signal to monitor.

> It may also help to reset the BIOS too.  There should be a jumper pretty
> close to the battery or just remove the battery for a little while,
> overnight maybe.  It could be that it has some garbage or something in
> it from sitting on a shelf, shipping jiggle etc etc. 

I shorted the 2 pins on the clr_cmos header, per the book for 4 second.
That did not help. It was suppose to reset to factory defaults.
. 
> The only other thing I can think of, does the BIOS version support that
> CPU?  I have always wondered what would happen if you put a CPU on a
> mobo that the BIOS doesn't support but would with a newer BIOS.  I
> *think* the BIOS version is on the box with the serial number and such. 

The book does say the processor must be installed. This mobo is for 
the fx8350 so something is bad. I'm gonna build up the second machine
and see what happens....

This mobo appears to be borked, right out of the box.

any other ideas?


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gigabyte wont boot

[Dale]

James wrote:
> Dale <rdalek1967 <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>
>> http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3996#manual
> I got a second identical mobo delivered today, so now I have
> a book. Check the connectors to the Front panel, all is correct.
> The mobo is Rev. 1.1. Swapped out ram, too, just to test.
>

That's a start.  lol

>> Does it beep?  
> NO. Would that suggest a dead mobo? The little speaker is attached
> but does not beep or anything...... The power supply is plugged into
> the mobo correctly. It's a new power supply and cables.

It should beep even if everything is fine.  I think mine gives one long
beep when all is good but do NOT take that as golden.  It's been over 3
months since I rebooted.  I can't recall exactly.


>> If so, is it the normal beep or a error code beep?  If
>> error code, then check to see if it sheds light on the problem.  I would
>> also unplug, give the connectors a good looking over then plug it back
>> up.  I'd do that for everything I could. 
> Yep, verified wiring 3 times. Might have a bad cable, so I'm going to replace
> them all one at a time and see if that makes any difference. The mobo
> is just not even trying to boot. No video signal to monitor.

I would remove anything I could and see if it beeps.  First, get it to
beep tho.  Unless it is dead, it should have some sort of beep.  Remove
all but one stick of ram, video card, drives and anything else. 
Basically, mobo itself, CPU and a stick of memory. 

>
>> The only other thing I can think of, does the BIOS version support that
>> CPU?  I have always wondered what would happen if you put a CPU on a
>> mobo that the BIOS doesn't support but would with a newer BIOS.  I
>> *think* the BIOS version is on the box with the serial number and such. 
> The book does say the processor must be installed. This mobo is for 
> the fx8350 so something is bad. I'm gonna build up the second machine
> and see what happens....
>
> This mobo appears to be borked, right out of the box.
>
> any other ideas?
>
>
> James
>

Yea, it has to have a CPU on it to make it do something.  My thought
was, what if the version of BIOS that is installed does not support the
specific CPU you have on there.  I know that mine will support a lot of
CPUs IF it has the latest version of BIOS.  If it still had the BIOS
that came on it, it does not see the newer CPUs.  I would have to
upgrade the BIOS first then upgrade.

If all else fails, maybe it is dead. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gigabyte wont boot

[Kevin Chadwick]

> If all else fails, maybe it is dead. 

Yeah no beep equals cpu | ram | mb

Check 

if pin 1 on the cpu is in the right place and cpu power cables right
and no bent pins.
The cpu and ram are compatible with the mb.
Hoover the ram slot and reseat
If your second mb works you could try the cpu and ram seperately in
the working mb to eliminate the problems/problems bearing in mind they
could damage the working mb.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gigabyte wont boot

[Hung Dang]

On 01/14/13 04:49, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
>> If all else fails, maybe it is dead.
> Yeah no beep equals cpu | ram | mb
>
> Check
>
> if pin 1 on the cpu is in the right place and cpu power cables right
> and no bent pins.
> The cpu and ram are compatible with the mb.
> Hoover the ram slot and reseat
> If your second mb works you could try the cpu and ram seperately in
> the working mb to eliminate the problems/problems bearing in mind they
> could damage the working mb.
>
Did you check 2 power cables? And does your power supply work correctly?

Re: [gentoo-user] Gigabyte wont boot

[pk]

On 2013-01-11 19:48, James wrote:

> Is there a listing of jumpers or other install
> tips that I can find somewhere for this mobo?
> I meticulously connected everything, as this is not
> my first RODEO. I've never had a new mobo in the box without the
> little install guide book.....bummer .....

Are you sure it's a new mobo and not a replacement that someone had
problems with and "RMA'd" it (and you got it instead)? I've had one of
those... I've never seen a mobo without the install manual.
It may of course also be brand new and still be D.O.A. Or some other
parts may be faulty/incompatible (memory modules would be my first guess)...

Btw, there seems to be two revisions of the mobo in question. At
Gigabytes homepage you can find manuals for both.

Best regards

Peter K

[gentoo-user] Re: Gigabyte wont boot

[James]

pk <peterk2 <at> coolmail.se> writes:


> Are you sure it's a new mobo and not a replacement that someone had
> problems with and "RMA'd" it (and you got it instead)? 

Newegg said it was new

> I've had one of those... I've never seen a mobo without the install manual.
> It may of course also be brand new and still be D.O.A. Or some other
> parts may be faulty/incompatible (memory modules would be my first guess)...

Ram is as spec'd:  G.skill Ares F-1866C10D-16BAB. 4 modules all
slots full summing to 32G.........

I think the mobo is BORKED....

> Btw, there seems to be two revisions of the mobo in question. At
> Gigabytes homepage you can find manuals for both.

This one is rev 1.1

I've got the parts to build 3 systems, so I'll move on to the
second one. Get it to work and verify the compoents, one system
at a time. If all else fails, it's the mobo or the CPU. Which of
the 2 will be hard to pinpoint without a hassle.


Looks like Newegg passed me a turd or 2......


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gigabyte wont boot

[pk]

On 2013-01-11 22:28, James wrote:

> Newegg said it was new

Ok. What I was trying to say was that I've had a motherboard shipped as
new to me but when it arrived I noticed it was used.

> Ram is as spec'd:  G.skill Ares F-1866C10D-16BAB. 4 modules all
> slots full summing to 32G.........

Try one module at a time...

> I think the mobo is BORKED....

Maybe...

> I've got the parts to build 3 systems, so I'll move on to the
> second one. Get it to work and verify the compoents, one system
> at a time. If all else fails, it's the mobo or the CPU. Which of
> the 2 will be hard to pinpoint without a hassle.

Good luck!

Best regards

Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] Gigabyte wont boot

[Bruce Hill]

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 06:48:44PM +0000, James wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> First system build with a Gigabyte mobo. I never
> got a "motherboard install book" and cannot seem 
> to find any docs on installing a new 990FXA-UD3
> with a FX8350 and ram installed. Everything is new
> and I have built many PCs before....
> 
> I  got the new system put together
> physically. I'm trying to boot into the bios.
> The Blueray burner opens and closes and I put
> the newest liveDVD inside but no boot. No signal
> to the monitor.
> 
> The fans all run, the BR burner opens and closes, but
> the motherboard will not boot. I first tried a
> known good pci video card (ATI) and now a new fanless 
> video card (ASUS Direct CU Silent Radeon HD 7750).
> I tried different slots with the video cards.
> 
> Is there a listing of jumpers or other install
> tips that I can find somewhere for this mobo?
> I meticulously connected everything, as this is not
> my first RODEO. I've never had a new mobo in the box without the
> little install guide book.....bummer .....
> 
> ideas?    wikis?    docs?
> 
> James

Dale gave you a link to the manufacturer's webpage for your board.

Never used a Blueray and don't know how well it's supported by the LiveDVD
you're using. I've been very pleased with SystemRescueCD[1], and booting off
USB [2] which is faster than a ROM drive anyway.

[1] http://www.sysresccd.org/Download
[2] http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_How_to_install_SystemRescueCd_on_an_USB-stick
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