From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-144271-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AB8138350 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3A6F21C0F4; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68B2421C052 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id dr1so2847025wgb.3 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:29:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4diAJT2olV/jzO1tSCNxByl4AqbJ2SMmjxwsfpn4W+U=; b=rwk9HGOx+Gtg/R/kUAnNnWssL1s3mzuMrLyCYgYikcmGy6QKxXNUY+7XEpotziUdoe NNiEvL7AVgew3XZScTeLWfezgNH2gHPO/Cs0H27E+0qir4xfCvAW1L/kVGjnyhDY8HvE gxxLl4QfsL9bNDz210g/afavDytdQ++G6XbdUI+cvYt6R2iS4itttXKMfgqmfWG9bseD zZ4So8fIx6GzaXmkXUhg/EVfZKhNa9koOCJbdr98jJ4m8KKMQcqGSCPkGbPBi20SnBt7 hZtLBDwPvuhw4V5osU1Yrrqvg1j53y7e/XaTmzdH2N026mgC/8FbdecpG5FOMUVzlRk+ 7gxw== X-Received: by 10.194.58.13 with SMTP id m13mr80025874wjq.18.1357601395943; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-209-117.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.209.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bd6sm14281071wib.10.2013.01.07.15.29.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:29:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 01:25:33 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 4 machines - no /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd anymore Message-ID: <20130108012533.04004d12@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <CAK2H+ee55QC+M47K9+Qk93w-FfufhOu6_3Dx8W0V-PfeKU9iLw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAK2H+eeuq1PdsX6YiALPDR3otE-O-y+mZC0wUzM8NrbwSqdb6w@mail.gmail.com> <CAK2H+ec+5wA0D2vLYMnmnDY29qP+JYFvVCSVfmo0b7Fhnvm74Q@mail.gmail.com> <201301061119.56710.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <CAK2H+eegj5Vmsv=77Kn3_C_TwTPH7swx=_3sGf+vriy+QY4Mtg@mail.gmail.com> <50EA2364.4080604@gmail.com> <kceovj$fp7$1@ger.gmane.org> <CAK2H+ee55QC+M47K9+Qk93w-FfufhOu6_3Dx8W0V-PfeKU9iLw@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.14; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8236dd40-b291-4ad9-bc7c-f611b1dd9d45 X-Archives-Hash: 6605c7160bb0671d721226e9aa3015d8 On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:37:05 -0800 Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote: > Now, my point is that change to /dev/srX was the root cause is FUD. It > isn't the root cause of this change because it didn't change on my > systems. All I know is that ID_PATH (from the old file) used to work > and no longer does. Whatever is responsible for creating that, likely > some portion of the kernel, changed the value and created a need to > modify how udev looks at the system. Is it a bug? I don't know. It's > just the way it is. It's not a bug as /dev/dvd is a mere convenience for the user - a nickname if you will. You are highly unlikely to find a standards doc of any kind stating the symlink should be there. Which means if it's not there, you get to make your own convenient nicknames. /dev/harddrive has never existed, right? Same with /dev/dvd and friends. make them if you want, but you can't expect them to be there and their absence is not a bug. Obviously someone left them out of the rules files. Maybe they had a reason, maybe they got lazy. Either way you get to add your own rules to get the names YOU want. It really is as simple as that, don't overthink this one. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com