From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2ACE138312 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B8E4E0512; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B23FBE001E for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t49so9644660wey.28 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 11:23:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=jxH+U2g+yNhhWHLagjc6XAqoareyHGZ9+OO+IQR5PKo=; b=dewnE1ZqFnmCaU/4qJfayKsdUw3bLPi9/XMHr9bNQdOZPqohuWxKk4Y2a/+736b8VC P5zr3GBiIoCZ7y099ReOD8R8I904HxhP0KsVzJu5hz7EVc9tBv6EvjnZEd1Yf7ND/9h0 cyoMWxpmleNaoC8ujCmwXHdN+QJJdgcJK5Xxj1LWMrztnywWtJS9aBjG/u5ahsPRZwvU 9Na1u4aefAKIEMTsCc1KH/H7jf9kNQVXgGvowJIoMdhlCLhwmeeOozsWA9pgOncTK8W3 Q4NI8PCdYKZss/oprY0kYH2FOnjQPj4se7vmLMZ/2FwCoX8ytZ8aXKya2H4wZ5R+9JsW 6qOw== X-Received: by 10.194.119.33 with SMTP id kr1mr93054011wjb.4.1357500184265; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 11:23:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from dell_xps.localnet (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa. [217.169.3.230]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id df2sm8819601wib.0.2013.01.06.11.23.02 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Jan 2013 11:23:02 -0800 (PST) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone succeeded with kmail2? Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:22:16 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.6.11-gentoo; KDE/4.9.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <1462406.jfzbT4ikfA@wstn> <20130103123352.096927f0@khamul.example.com> <1361621.h2ecVs2bW1@aemaeth> In-Reply-To: <1361621.h2ecVs2bW1@aemaeth> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1575022.vDodVyY7GX"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201301061922.46616.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: bc468dbb-0362-4190-a729-f728a4d70f66 X-Archives-Hash: 289116089d4b7bd1d74c4909252a6d6c --nextPart1575022.vDodVyY7GX Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 06 Jan 2013 15:11:35 Francesco Talamona wrote: > > On 4.9.3 you are still experiencing something similar. Hmmm. Indicates > > to me a high probability of a systemic problem with the projects > > approach, something that is unlikely to ever get really fixed. In my > > opinion kdepim2 is vastly over-engineered and an attempt to solve a > > problem that does not actually exist. I recommend you use a different > > mail app. >=20 > After an indescribable amount of pain and time wasted I was able to regain > control over my mail. >=20 > I recently migrated a kmail used nearly for ten years to the latest kmail= 2. > Migration took around a month of struggle. >=20 > It's mandatory to have nepomuk+akonadi running (I configured file indexing > to run only on a folder containing a few files), it has to be checked for > mail too. >=20 > In the migration you'll lose your filters, your profiles, and the flag of > the mail will be randomly changed (thousands of read mail will come up > unread, "important" flag will be lost... And so on). >=20 > If you try to reimport (after deleting the akonadi database as somewhere > advised) the mail from ~/Mail you'll discover the the import tool is unab= le > to handle maildir (or mailbox, I don't remember) format. If, like me, you > used kmail for several years, then not all mail folders have the same > format, given the fact that the default was changed during time. >=20 > Beware also that full text indexing is on per default for every mail fold= er > created. So, as soon as I imported a mail folder, I deselected this option > by hand (under folder properties -> maintenance). >=20 > So, this is the step-by-step guide to migrate to kmail2: >=20 > * backup your ~ folder, especially ~/Mail, ~/.config and ~/.kde4 >=20 > * make sure akonadi, nepomuk & co are running (with the command "akonadic= tl > status" for example). >=20 > * look carefully in ~/.xsession-errors if some errors appear related to > akonadi, nepomuk, mysql, soprano, virtuoso... Do not migrate if you see a= ny > errors, fix them first. >=20 > for example the following error is guaranteed to slowly and painfully dra= in > all of your setup and mail to a black hole: >=20 > Soprano: "Could not connect to server at /tmp/ksocket-sko/nepomuk-socket > (No such file or directory)" >=20 > * Delete everything no more necessary (mail messages, old accounts...). >=20 > * Archive every folder you want to migrate and delete them from the old > client >=20 > * Take note of your filters, especially if some of them makes elaborate > operations, mail account settings, profile preferences... >=20 > * backup again, just to be sure >=20 > * upgrade kmail, and start kmail2, let it run for the time needed (one > night or more is normal) until the I/O and CPU load are back to a > reasonable level >=20 > * reimport archived folder (and disable for each one full text indexing > before is started) >=20 > * reconfigure filters, accounts, profiles... >=20 > * backup for the last time >=20 > Hoping to save someone else the waste of time I went through. >=20 > F. Talamona WOW! The fact that *any* KDEPIM devs consider this migration torture even= =20 remotely acceptable must be a clear sign of advanced insanity! O_O Thank you very much for your detailed instructions. It seems that kmail2=20 requires the full KDE desktop running or it won't play well. Perhaps that'= s=20 why my attempts to date were futile. =20 With kmail-1.13.7 I am getting this error: Nepomuk Query Server not available kmail(3842)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig: search paths: ("/usr/bin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/bin", "/bin", "/opt/bin= ",=20 "/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.5.4", "/opt/Citrix/ICAClient")=20 "/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(3872)" Soprano: "Could not connect= to=20 server at /tmp/ksocket-michael/nepomuk-socket (No such file or directory)" [snip ...] Connecting to deprecated signal=20 QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) akonadi_maildispatcher_agent(3871)/libakonadi=20 Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult: Failed=20 SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult "Failed to fetch the resource=20 collection."=20 It seems that it is a matter of time before I am forced to use T'bird - or= =20 make the time to configure and learn how to use mutt. :-( =2D-=20 Regards, Mick 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