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From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone succeeded with kmail2?
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 19:22:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201301061922.46616.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1361621.h2ecVs2bW1@aemaeth>

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On Sunday 06 Jan 2013 15:11:35 Francesco Talamona wrote:
> > On 4.9.3 you are still experiencing something similar. Hmmm. Indicates
> > to me a high probability of a systemic problem with the projects
> > approach, something that is unlikely to ever get really fixed. In my
> > opinion kdepim2 is vastly over-engineered and an attempt to solve a
> > problem that does not actually exist. I recommend you use a different
> > mail app.
> 
> After an indescribable amount of pain and time wasted I was able to regain
> control over my mail.
> 
> I recently migrated a kmail used nearly for ten years to the latest kmail2.
> Migration took around a month of struggle.
> 
> It's mandatory to have nepomuk+akonadi running (I configured file indexing
> to run only on a folder containing a few files), it has to be checked for
> mail too.
> 
> In the migration you'll lose your filters, your profiles, and the flag of
> the mail will be randomly changed (thousands of read mail will come up
> unread, "important" flag will be lost... And so on).
> 
> If you try to reimport (after deleting the akonadi database as somewhere
> advised) the mail from ~/Mail you'll discover the the import tool is unable
> to handle maildir (or mailbox, I don't remember) format. If, like me, you
> used kmail for several years, then not all mail folders have the same
> format, given the fact that the default was changed during time.
> 
> Beware also that full text indexing is on per default for every mail folder
> created. So, as soon as I imported a mail folder, I deselected this option
> by hand (under folder properties -> maintenance).
> 
> So, this is the step-by-step guide to migrate to kmail2:
> 
> * backup your ~ folder, especially ~/Mail, ~/.config and ~/.kde4
> 
> * make sure akonadi, nepomuk & co are running (with the command "akonadictl
> status" for example).
> 
> * look carefully in ~/.xsession-errors if some errors appear related to
> akonadi, nepomuk, mysql, soprano, virtuoso... Do not migrate if you see any
> errors, fix them first.
> 
> for example the following error is guaranteed to slowly and painfully drain
> all of your setup and mail to a black hole:
> 
> Soprano: "Could not connect to server at /tmp/ksocket-sko/nepomuk-socket
> (No such file or directory)"
> 
> * Delete everything no more necessary (mail messages, old accounts...).
> 
> * Archive every folder you want to migrate and delete them from the old
> client
> 
> * Take note of your filters, especially if some of them makes elaborate
> operations, mail account settings, profile preferences...
> 
> * backup again, just to be sure
> 
> * upgrade kmail, and start kmail2, let it run for the time needed (one
> night or more is normal) until the I/O and CPU load are back to a
> reasonable level
> 
> * reimport archived folder (and disable for each one full text indexing
> before is started)
> 
> * reconfigure filters, accounts, profiles...
> 
> * backup for the last time
> 
> Hoping to save someone else the waste of time I went through.
> 
> F. Talamona

WOW!  The fact that *any* KDEPIM devs consider this migration torture even 
remotely acceptable must be a clear sign of advanced insanity!  O_O

Thank you very much for your detailed instructions.  It seems that kmail2 
requires the full KDE desktop running or it won't play well.  Perhaps that's 
why my attempts to date were futile.  

With kmail-1.13.7 I am getting this error:

Nepomuk Query Server not available
kmail(3842)/kdecore (KConfigSkeleton) KCoreConfigSkeleton::writeConfig:
search paths:  ("/usr/bin", "/usr/local/bin", "/usr/bin", "/bin", "/opt/bin", 
"/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.5.4", "/opt/Citrix/ICAClient") 
"/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder(3872)" Soprano: "Could not connect to 
server at /tmp/ksocket-michael/nepomuk-socket (No such file or directory)"
[snip ...]

Connecting to deprecated signal 
QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString)
akonadi_maildispatcher_agent(3871)/libakonadi 
Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult: Failed 
SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult "Failed to fetch the resource 
collection." 


It seems that it is a matter of time before I am forced to use T'bird - or 
make the time to configure and learn how to use mutt.  :-(
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-06 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-03  9:43 [gentoo-user] Anyone succeeded with kmail2? Peter Humphrey
2013-01-03 10:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-03 16:14   ` Mick
2013-01-03 17:09   ` [gentoo-user] Anyone succeeded with kmail2?, " Peter Humphrey
2013-01-03 17:22     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-01-03 18:24     ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-01-03 18:34       ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-01-07  9:29       ` Neil Bothwick
2013-01-07 11:33         ` Jorge Almeida
2013-01-07 22:23           ` Neil Bothwick
2013-01-07 23:32             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-08  0:28               ` Neil Bothwick
2013-01-04  4:13     ` Randy Barlow
2013-01-04 17:09       ` Mick
2013-01-07  2:10         ` Peter Humphrey
2013-01-07  2:43           ` Randy Barlow
2013-01-07  7:54             ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-04 21:37       ` [gentoo-user] Anyone succeeded with kmail2?, " Peter Humphrey
2013-01-04  6:01     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-04  6:09     ` William Kenworthy
2013-01-03 17:09   ` [gentoo-user] Anyone succeeded with kmail2?, " Peter Humphrey
2013-01-06 15:11   ` Francesco Talamona
2013-01-06 19:22     ` Mick [this message]
2013-01-07  5:23       ` Francesco Talamona
2013-01-03 17:22 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2013-01-06 14:30   ` Francesco Talamona

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