From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFF113824F for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0562B21C053; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f48.google.com (mail-bk0-f48.google.com [209.85.214.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFFFA21C046 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f48.google.com with SMTP id jc3so6037203bkc.21 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 05:41:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/3hsxvwA43mUdbuj541lm14s4hHdNa3YZ9HMkXxikdA=; b=o989u0dwe0vsV2KZWH2d71hOcbhk3QsF49BRe24pUHwQpk2VuxsXXTwy1VgjItAxmV WmIrxHarcgb7WsnNHuR60dgnfB7TqQ4iMCiTiGpwcrfcDsMNMnT033p03b/znQpZqVG0 oxglTVooGHoNY4DtWb59OxteHugbaj46zwG+S73wIL1zpssWtScXN1c3XD7+xblctHyI Lj/TD0iJYYtdX3fOienK1DcdWjtt8IERQVQEvZOZgZVx8ah4CbiQoLYNRzXcUcxc2+6b 9yW4aEceS7fTWBWLd9F8+E69G5yvbpoRTleOZgGRFR4nM2AQk0eky3/xApK1Vro/+0VZ 9coA== X-Received: by 10.204.127.27 with SMTP id e27mr22126434bks.126.1357134116500; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 05:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (dustpuppy.is.co.za. [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10sm31188834bkw.1.2013.01.02.05.41.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Jan 2013 05:41:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:38:01 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Good/better/best filesystem for large, static video library? Message-ID: <20130102153801.704ae907@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20130102130450.6bf088ed@digimed.co.uk> References: <20121227021800.49b1cbad@khamul.example.com> <20130102130450.6bf088ed@digimed.co.uk> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.14; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e5624a7d-8b16-4385-b786-6a7b66e41e6d X-Archives-Hash: 791d8d09ecf615fa00c70c7c29044570 On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:04:50 +0000 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 02:18:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > There is no more weird partitions from the days of DOS, no PV/VG/LV > > to remember the details of. There is only storage and ZFS knows > > what I want to happen with each "chunk" of it. A "chunk" (my term) > > in this context is a directory and everything below it. > > > > ZFS doesn't have partitions and filesystems. It has volumes. A > > volume is sort of a cross between a filesystem (you mount it and > > can assign quotas to it) and a directory (you assign permissions > > and ownerships to it). You can overcommit storage space and quotas > > - you do not get "disk full" errors and three days of nightmares > > while you figure out how to deal with this. the FS just tells you > > it used more than the allocated space and keeps telling you till > > you get it under the limit. > > I've been looking at zfsonlinux and it looks a lot simpler than the > layers of RAID and LVM, but what about encryption. Can I encrypt > directories within ZFS or do I have to use something like ecryptfs on > top of it? AFAIK, Oracle included encryption in ZFS v30 but this has not been released as opensource. The last OSS version released was 28. What this means to me is that devs could include disk-encryption but they probably won't have a standard to code to, and that implies a whole lotta YMMV. You'd have to use ecryptfs or friends for now. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com