From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7542E1381FB for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 642FC21C02A; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:12:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30D7B21C003 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 23:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id gg4so4462507wgb.6 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:11:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OK7kk/YsgOizVnQ8Tx1Y0kvs/Ua8tPEKo6hAHXH8yHo=; b=XRu+3xLVG6+80m32VQqMbmEpC1I2jl++MlTgblo0LS0tsP4MSkzFVc+qbyDq1kZFam RvPSaeNYX6eLiqv1/XYi2LU7C2aj+E/MxzoGAHWQ4U5IHyXMV5ci3s43n+4nYkwW3I5W 9yPYUdgz+Z6c0RMVrMiIaPoEglhkQv6BOe6879kpg0hZxv/JbAKGZIOMZFy/4U2iQoNZ qsgMyioDE3wYSRaU5hsQwYbQlxrb1+GhigUeWfk+FlmmREzEDdFeM3t9bg+Yh7dnyOL1 wLWQ6zkHiEwSv5AbVS66wiEtCAVrDTSJiQBjuAs896ZrWPSXkxKp9QP2OpUL76POH52T P6oA== X-Received: by 10.180.75.208 with SMTP id e16mr50253905wiw.3.1356649882720; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-209-117.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.209.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i2sm59564074wiw.3.2012.12.27.15.11.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:11:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 01:07:32 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Message-ID: <20121228010732.02de2a7b@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: References: <50CB1942.3020900@gmail.com> <50CB4A3C.1030109@gmail.com> <50CB5406.7040404@gmail.com> <8738z7hgsa.fsf@ist.utl.pt> <20121216171043.71084070@khamul.example.com> <20121217104621.735bf43a@khamul.example.com> <20121218163332.7956f31a@khamul.example.com> <87txrd6pb3.fsf@ist.utl.pt> <20121223182037.1553813f@khamul.example.com> <87bodk7lb6.fsf@ist.utl.pt> <20121224085528.56f535ec@khamul.example.com> <50D85167.9060309@gmail.com> <20121224204817.335033c6@khamul.example.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.14; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 43f2bba6-834f-4828-a7cd-0247b82442fa X-Archives-Hash: 4528be1087e7c11014e097ef2aefcf32 On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:56:52 +0700 Pandu Poluan wrote: > In case you haven't noticed, since Windows 7 (or Vista, forget which) > Microsoft has even went the distance of splitting between C: > (analogous to /usr) and 'System Partition' (analogous to /). The boot > process is actually handled by the 100ish MB 'System Partition' > before being handed to C:. This will at least give SysAdmins a > fighting chance of recovering a botched maintenance. (Note: Said > behavior will only be visible if installing onto a clean hard disk. > If there are partitions left over from previous Windows installs, > Win7 will not create a separate 'System Partition') So, if Microsoft > saw the light, why does Red Hat sunk into darkness instead? I zone out of work-related stuff for three days to enjoy presents instead, and look what happens to the thread :-) I think I've said all I need to say on this matter, I'm not out to prove any point really and don't have a dog in this fight. I might not agree with how Lennart and RH are proceeding with implementation, but I do agree with the generally stated engineering problem at the core of the debate. I'm not sure about Microsoft's motivations in what you describe. My first reaction is that the Great Circle of IT Life is turning and MS are trying something new for them. Whether it's applicable to us here as an illustration remains to be seen - I know very little about Windows so can't even begin to draw sensible parallels. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com