From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4C21381FB for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8DEA21C090; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm15.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm15.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.189]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2692021C0BA for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.12.10.83] by nm15.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Dec 2012 22:23:59 -0000 Received: from [77.238.184.62] by tm17.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Dec 2012 22:23:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp131.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Dec 2012 22:23:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1356560639; bh=oF/Xb9Wedi1j1gv3XUoc4y+Cw5j3zSek1HqHsUdB0kY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bsz0KgiHb/fIhTIdWmNI4bauNO0ylcxpeLNUpuX1cJXKB9A/JccZdLGlhar+n0ucj08SFAnTfKUOvoiKT+3gayWstGICOWxB5uoyzx7asYBzHLyyGDwCZ+HsQTzhknIPWWss2fSRsaM2RS7urskIQU6DGjF/TkzbxItBHf2WmLA= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 845947.5909.bm@smtp131.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: tAA1Wj8VM1lI4O6517xujYeq6aRIFjeDfV5acAkDvrIHojt 9Mk1aasQirXZjqkKS84.Hs3AUEhaP.gRPXVKHp8O_3XVokbIcRdIOw3HFVIg sx6qYzEzVnh4HEnQjDhEA_wJXmYexXYD_3eB_bbkfK4Py3mkl3_lynJqrNQE PsV5ZjpbUxSuJVU_NBLxx8dBFgo4AIXTOhKC2ScwCytYYhcXIE71OKFFF5aL CzB2_AfOww.10y.I6F9DSmt0GMcFiDaSKVsfa99Uy.zTAm7i_y40z2WC7gxq FsywqIzrSVu6MTPKa1V1xsqM2Ouv9D9IOA6VesWT8sPfEFaa_BwRITPhyc7z g2f1jxsUEobnOln4SEG357QZuS8FjaMPrIQW_Pjze4OZc..LKJnjKjz4Ygl4 dFBkGe07eIOa8Usu4XGU_T6D1hbuhXv_80EgDgxcy X-Yahoo-SMTP: UxXxlhuswBC4wbdewolpwSmT1iJVzQ-- Received: from kc-sys.chadwicks.me.uk (ma1l1ists@92.27.156.6 with login) by smtp131.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Dec 2012 22:23:59 +0000 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:31:43 +0000 From: Kevin Chadwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Message-ID: <20121226213143.27499939@kc-sys.chadwicks.me.uk> In-Reply-To: References: <87txrd6pb3.fsf@ist.utl.pt> <20121223182037.1553813f@khamul.example.com> <87bodk7lb6.fsf@ist.utl.pt> <20121224085528.56f535ec@khamul.example.com> <50D85167.9060309@gmail.com> <20121224204817.335033c6@khamul.example.com> <50D8B467.4080100@gmail.com> <20121224230413.GL26547@server> <20121224182907.2bf6d3d6@fuchsia.remarqs.net> <20121225020301.GP26547@server> <50D911A6.6070500@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 4f231d7b-0af9-4217-b43a-b8551cadc0c6 X-Archives-Hash: 6e0c83b467e1fd0b971a529cb5b2503b On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 00:01:58 +0800 Mark David Dumlao wrote: > Nobody's telling you _your_ system, as in the collection of programs > you use for your productivity, is broken. What we're saying is that > _the_ system, as in the general practice as compared to the > specification, is broken. Those are two _very_ different things. If the spec and practice are out of sync then if possible as this thread demonstrates most and is perfectly possible then you fix the practice and do not erode the spec.