From: Bruce Hill <daddy@happypenguincomputers.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:04:13 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121224230413.GL26547@server> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK2H+efOgw=gjMd-7b5ftH9KtgehBXcHRiAm4w1x6p5-vry4uQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 01:23:16PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> <SNIP>
> > The problems with that is these: It worked ALL these years, why should
> > it not now? I have / on a traditional partition which is not going to
> > resize easily. If I put / on LVM, I need a init thingy. I don't want a
> > init thingy
>
> Is that really true? Do you _really_ care whether an 'init thingy' exists
> on your system, or is this energy about it really based in something else?
>
> I'm just not understanding the resistance so I'm curious.
>
> I don't like, really don't like, the work that currently goes into making
> my 'init thingy' work. All the Gentoo docs about creating hierarchies by
> hand and populating them with files and then compressing it. All that
> drives me nuts. It should be 100% automatic, and probably is with the
> right tools which I haven't found.
>
> But I'm not understanding why you are so against it in totality. It would
> be one thing to say that it's too much work. That I understand, but not
> wanting one seems a bit overboard to me...
Once upon a time (for 7 years) Slackware was my distro, and not only as a
user. They still have a script (mkinitrd) which only asks a minimal amount of
information from the user to run a simple one-liner and create initrd.gz.
Gentoo had mkinitrd once upon a time, but it's now in attic. Somewhere,
sometime, for some reason, initramfs (inital ram filesystem) became vogue for
the Gentoo camp, rather than initrd (initial ram disk image), and mkinitrd got
retired.
Since there are so very many ways to boot a system, with / on RAID0, /usr on
LVM, and any other number of combinations on this LAN, I didn't bother to
investigate why the Gentoo devs retired mkinitrd.
So long as you're not going to let this thread die, I've thrown that in the
mix and maybe someone will come up with the *real* *reason* that mkinitrd,
such a simple method to create an initrd, is in attic rather than portage.
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2012-12-14 12:19 [gentoo-user] Anyone switched to eudev yet? Dale
2012-12-14 13:26 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-14 13:41 ` Dale
2012-12-14 14:04 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 14:25 ` Dale
2012-12-14 15:39 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 16:20 ` Tanstaafl
2012-12-14 17:34 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 19:02 ` Tanstaafl
2012-12-14 16:23 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-14 16:32 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 16:33 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-14 17:06 ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:52 ` Dale
2012-12-14 17:44 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 20:49 ` Dale
2012-12-14 15:01 ` [gentoo-user] " Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 15:48 ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:07 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 16:29 ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:53 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 17:14 ` Dale
2012-12-14 21:34 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-15 10:18 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-15 17:43 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-16 12:51 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-16 21:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-16 21:30 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 22:14 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-16 22:25 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-15 8:16 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 15:10 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-16 18:49 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-16 20:32 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 20:51 ` Dale
2012-12-17 0:26 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-17 5:44 ` Dale
2012-12-17 5:57 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-17 6:09 ` Dale
2012-12-17 6:24 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-17 6:44 ` Dale
2012-12-17 11:33 ` Kevin Chadwick
[not found] ` <CAA2qdGWkfmiQVAKb76wq57scQ-T5p2U7HE4VdN8BnTX0oZHS1g@mail.gmail.com>
2012-12-17 5:54 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-17 7:38 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17 7:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17 7:29 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17 8:02 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-17 8:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 11:44 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-18 12:55 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 13:34 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-18 22:02 ` Marc Joliet
2012-12-19 18:48 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 21:42 ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-18 14:08 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-18 14:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 22:55 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-18 23:07 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19 3:05 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-19 9:30 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 9:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19 10:14 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19 9:26 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 15:03 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-23 10:22 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 16:20 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-23 17:03 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 17:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-12-23 17:44 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 17:53 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-23 18:06 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 20:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 1:27 ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-24 8:06 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 10:58 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 15:14 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-24 15:52 ` Dale
2012-12-24 23:09 ` William Kenworthy
2012-12-25 20:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 21:05 ` Dale
2012-12-26 21:35 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 23:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-25 11:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 15:10 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-24 15:20 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 19:43 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-27 19:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-27 20:07 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 20:14 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 6:55 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 12:58 ` Dale
2012-12-24 13:21 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 13:58 ` Dale
2012-12-24 15:06 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 15:27 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 15:56 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 16:00 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 16:11 ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:14 ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:34 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 17:02 ` Dale
2012-12-24 15:43 ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:29 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 17:00 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 12:10 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 12:46 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:22 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 16:40 ` Dale
2012-12-25 17:17 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 17:53 ` Dale
2012-12-25 18:54 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 22:49 ` Dale
2012-12-25 22:54 ` Paul Colquhoun
2012-12-25 23:12 ` Dale
2012-12-26 11:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-26 14:19 ` pk
2012-12-24 16:25 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 16:41 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 17:05 ` Dale
2012-12-24 17:15 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 18:58 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-25 1:54 ` Dale
2012-12-26 15:56 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 18:48 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 20:00 ` Dale
2012-12-24 20:15 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 21:23 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-24 22:36 ` Dale
2012-12-24 23:17 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 0:34 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 2:00 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 2:33 ` Dale
2012-12-25 21:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 21:42 ` Dale
2012-12-25 22:07 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 23:04 ` Bruce Hill [this message]
2012-12-25 0:29 ` »Q«
2012-12-25 0:54 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 1:30 ` Dale
2012-12-25 2:13 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 16:51 ` Todd Goodman
2012-12-25 23:26 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 11:40 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-26 14:24 ` Todd Goodman
2012-12-26 17:03 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 17:22 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-26 20:34 ` Dale
2012-12-26 21:00 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 2:03 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 2:38 ` Dale
2012-12-25 12:58 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 16:01 ` Dale
2012-12-26 16:01 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-26 20:42 ` Dale
2012-12-27 3:23 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 16:13 ` Dale
2012-12-27 16:24 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-27 17:46 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:15 ` Dale
2012-12-27 18:31 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:41 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 19:02 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-27 22:29 ` Dale
2012-12-29 0:43 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-27 16:28 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 18:22 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:40 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 20:16 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 20:59 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 22:37 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-28 4:20 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-28 14:10 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-28 14:21 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-26 21:31 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-25 21:19 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 22:00 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 22:13 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 22:20 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 23:04 ` Dale
2012-12-25 23:10 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 23:56 ` Dale
2012-12-24 21:43 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 22:23 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 23:31 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 23:58 ` Dale
2012-12-25 0:44 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 22:52 ` Dale
2012-12-24 22:11 ` Daniel Wagener
2012-12-25 3:56 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 7:38 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? -> what was wron with SysVInit? G.Wolfe Woodbury
2012-12-25 8:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-25 11:14 ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2012-12-25 13:14 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-25 13:35 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 18:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 0:45 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-27 1:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 1:26 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 16:00 ` pk
2012-12-27 23:24 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 18:15 ` pk
2012-12-28 18:55 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-28 19:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 22:40 ` pk
2012-12-29 1:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 1:06 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-28 1:24 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:56 ` Joshua Murphy
2012-12-25 18:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 22:22 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-26 22:19 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-26 23:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 23:51 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 0:57 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 16:29 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 23:38 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 18:53 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-28 19:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 20:17 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-28 20:36 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-29 3:48 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-28 23:23 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-29 1:06 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 0:27 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-25 13:02 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:18 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-25 15:01 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 23:31 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 0:19 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-26 2:16 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-26 3:24 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 17:13 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 18:47 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 23:07 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-04 23:22 ` Mike Edenfield
2013-01-05 2:41 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 19:41 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 18:42 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 21:53 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 22:45 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-20 3:45 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-20 16:47 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-20 20:59 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-23 10:26 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-20 21:01 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-20 21:46 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-21 0:09 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21 0:45 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21 8:28 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-15 10:16 ` [gentoo-user] " pk
2012-12-14 16:17 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 16:31 ` Dale
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