From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 20:39:41 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121223203941.20fdd9a7@digimed.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877go87jec.fsf@ist.utl.pt>
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:44:43 +0200, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
> > Because certain people with influence have rearranged the filesystem
> > so that programs within /usr are absolutely necessary for booting;
> > they are needed _before_ init has a chance to mount /usr. So
> > either /usr has to be in the root partition, or crazy kludges need to
> > be used to mount /usr before the kernel runs init.
>
> I surely don't know the udev architecture well enough, but if this is
> all done by the udev daemon, can't we just "mount /usr" before the
> daemon is started? The only needed things should be mount (which is
> under /bin here) and /etc/fstab.
Because before we can mount thye block device containing the filesystem
for /usr, we have to make that block device available. You are
only considering the case of /usr being on a plain hard disk partition,
what if it in on an LVM volume, or encrypted (or both) of mounted over
the network? All of these require something to be run before they can be
mounted, and if that cannot be run until udev has started, we have been
painted into a corner.
--
Neil Bothwick
Top Oxymorons Number 43: Genuine imitation
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2012-12-14 12:19 [gentoo-user] Anyone switched to eudev yet? Dale
2012-12-14 13:26 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-14 13:41 ` Dale
2012-12-14 14:04 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 14:25 ` Dale
2012-12-14 15:39 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 16:20 ` Tanstaafl
2012-12-14 17:34 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 19:02 ` Tanstaafl
2012-12-14 16:23 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-14 16:32 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 16:33 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-14 17:06 ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:52 ` Dale
2012-12-14 17:44 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 20:49 ` Dale
2012-12-14 15:01 ` [gentoo-user] " Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 15:48 ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:07 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 16:29 ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:53 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 17:14 ` Dale
2012-12-14 21:34 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-15 10:18 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-15 17:43 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-16 12:51 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-16 21:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-16 21:30 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 22:14 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-16 22:25 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-15 8:16 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 15:10 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-16 18:49 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-16 20:32 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 20:51 ` Dale
2012-12-17 0:26 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-17 5:44 ` Dale
2012-12-17 5:57 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-17 6:09 ` Dale
2012-12-17 6:24 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-17 6:44 ` Dale
2012-12-17 11:33 ` Kevin Chadwick
[not found] ` <CAA2qdGWkfmiQVAKb76wq57scQ-T5p2U7HE4VdN8BnTX0oZHS1g@mail.gmail.com>
2012-12-17 5:54 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-17 7:38 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17 7:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17 7:29 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17 8:02 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-17 8:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 11:44 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-18 12:55 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 13:34 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-18 22:02 ` Marc Joliet
2012-12-19 18:48 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 21:42 ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-18 14:08 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-18 14:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 22:55 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-18 23:07 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19 3:05 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-19 9:30 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 9:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19 10:14 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19 9:26 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 15:03 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-23 10:22 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 16:20 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-23 17:03 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 17:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-12-23 17:44 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 17:53 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-23 18:06 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 20:39 ` Neil Bothwick [this message]
2012-12-24 1:27 ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-24 8:06 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 10:58 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 15:14 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-24 15:52 ` Dale
2012-12-24 23:09 ` William Kenworthy
2012-12-25 20:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 21:05 ` Dale
2012-12-26 21:35 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 23:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-25 11:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 15:10 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-24 15:20 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 19:43 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-27 19:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-27 20:07 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 20:14 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 6:55 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 12:58 ` Dale
2012-12-24 13:21 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 13:58 ` Dale
2012-12-24 15:06 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 15:27 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 15:56 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 16:00 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 16:11 ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:14 ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:34 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 17:02 ` Dale
2012-12-24 15:43 ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:29 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 17:00 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 12:10 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 12:46 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:22 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 16:40 ` Dale
2012-12-25 17:17 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 17:53 ` Dale
2012-12-25 18:54 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 22:49 ` Dale
2012-12-25 22:54 ` Paul Colquhoun
2012-12-25 23:12 ` Dale
2012-12-26 11:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-26 14:19 ` pk
2012-12-24 16:25 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 16:41 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 17:05 ` Dale
2012-12-24 17:15 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 18:58 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-25 1:54 ` Dale
2012-12-26 15:56 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 18:48 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 20:00 ` Dale
2012-12-24 20:15 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 21:23 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-24 22:36 ` Dale
2012-12-24 23:17 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 0:34 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 2:00 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 2:33 ` Dale
2012-12-25 21:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 21:42 ` Dale
2012-12-25 22:07 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 23:04 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 0:29 ` »Q«
2012-12-25 0:54 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 1:30 ` Dale
2012-12-25 2:13 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 16:51 ` Todd Goodman
2012-12-25 23:26 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 11:40 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-26 14:24 ` Todd Goodman
2012-12-26 17:03 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 17:22 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-26 20:34 ` Dale
2012-12-26 21:00 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 2:03 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 2:38 ` Dale
2012-12-25 12:58 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 16:01 ` Dale
2012-12-26 16:01 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-26 20:42 ` Dale
2012-12-27 3:23 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 16:13 ` Dale
2012-12-27 16:24 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-27 17:46 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:15 ` Dale
2012-12-27 18:31 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:41 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 19:02 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-27 22:29 ` Dale
2012-12-29 0:43 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-27 16:28 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 18:22 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:40 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 20:16 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 20:59 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 22:37 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-28 4:20 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-28 14:10 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-28 14:21 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-26 21:31 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-25 21:19 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 22:00 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 22:13 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 22:20 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 23:04 ` Dale
2012-12-25 23:10 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 23:56 ` Dale
2012-12-24 21:43 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 22:23 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 23:31 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 23:58 ` Dale
2012-12-25 0:44 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 22:52 ` Dale
2012-12-24 22:11 ` Daniel Wagener
2012-12-25 3:56 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 7:38 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? -> what was wron with SysVInit? G.Wolfe Woodbury
2012-12-25 8:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-25 11:14 ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2012-12-25 13:14 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-25 13:35 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 18:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 0:45 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-27 1:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 1:26 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 16:00 ` pk
2012-12-27 23:24 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 18:15 ` pk
2012-12-28 18:55 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-28 19:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 22:40 ` pk
2012-12-29 1:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 1:06 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-28 1:24 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:56 ` Joshua Murphy
2012-12-25 18:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 22:22 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-26 22:19 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-26 23:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 23:51 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 0:57 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 16:29 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 23:38 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 18:53 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-28 19:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 20:17 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-28 20:36 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-29 3:48 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-28 23:23 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-29 1:06 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 0:27 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-25 13:02 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:18 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-25 15:01 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 23:31 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 0:19 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-26 2:16 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-26 3:24 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 17:13 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 18:47 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 23:07 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-04 23:22 ` Mike Edenfield
2013-01-05 2:41 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 19:41 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 18:42 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 21:53 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 22:45 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-20 3:45 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-20 16:47 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-20 20:59 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-23 10:26 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-20 21:01 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-20 21:46 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-21 0:09 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21 0:45 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21 8:28 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-15 10:16 ` [gentoo-user] " pk
2012-12-14 16:17 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 16:31 ` Dale
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