From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A141381F3 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5763721C114; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f49.google.com (mail-bk0-f49.google.com [209.85.214.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BBEF21C10C for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f49.google.com with SMTP id jm19so298037bkc.8 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:58:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9sWRyh9TI0fX0E6kOGNUFP7JKHZziQcmla2TbFyFYmU=; b=MTUbgOzHJrk/98hYaFeCR6R2Thbo/ZbWh3zld7grcIZLvhs8Tm+uD/aLKJ5WJ4DEWi wyua5JRwZOxTnpXHyE0yjDczYTElwCCxMDK7vg6jFETGNc8FhjY98yCrtg1/uqlQjz/x tW8k/B7hS97p2vDjsU5AkanxUp9rI33oxClnlH1xIquEJY6fn+ygzwP5mUz8gtRCQKZ0 y6PEc8bTwxTb2ZxE/5MRKq0s/FEIMiLAgWfE+ewwW1InzBzd5kX56OazedJcP0+M9sRw VUL2hy0GO1vUAxjSV8mSTPmrUE90Utsp/kYW8ILsS/E2xkBlOdl2pWsqEOtOYwE3dhzQ x7WQ== X-Received: by 10.204.148.12 with SMTP id n12mr663709bkv.138.1355835531143; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (dustpuppy.is.co.za. [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z5sm1216354bkv.11.2012.12.18.04.58.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:58:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:55:14 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Message-ID: <20121218145514.4267aded@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: References: <50CB1942.3020900@gmail.com> <50CB4A3C.1030109@gmail.com> <50CB5406.7040404@gmail.com> <8738z7hgsa.fsf@ist.utl.pt> <20121216171043.71084070@khamul.example.com> <20121217104621.735bf43a@khamul.example.com> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.14; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 38490206-4862-49ce-82fe-22b741898cd7 X-Archives-Hash: a4da0a436ac191ed385c532f40f54348 On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:44:13 +0800 Mark David Dumlao wrote: > >> http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html > > > > Well fair enough. This stuff is becoming more myth than fact as less > > and less people are around to remember how it really went. There may > > even have been to-ing and fro-ing moving bits around till Ken and > > Dennis settled on the eventual outcome in that post. > > > > Either way, we still agree. A separate /usr is, *for the most > > part*, a tradition applied without much understanding of the reason > > (most traditions are exactly like this). Most people do not > > actually need it. > > The sweet irony here is that Poettering - the cause for all this mess > - likely understood the logistics and rationale of the / and /usr > split better than most of his detractors - I'm pretty sure I landed on > that link by starting from one of his systemd tutorial pages, though I > can't exactly remember which one. Thankfully, I've never had to > maintain systems whose disks were small and low performing enough that > it actually mattered to separate / from /usr. Yes indeed :-) The other sweet irony is that Lennart is quite often correct in what he sets out to solve. He is the human equivalent of "disruptive technology", but also has this knack of rubbing people up the wrong way (or at least creating a circumstance where people believe he has rubbed them up the wrong way). I have some measure of empathy for the man as I tend to do similar things in my own sphere -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com