From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608571381F3 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:56:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 205D321C0E8; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f46.google.com (mail-bk0-f46.google.com [209.85.214.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD48721C03E for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-bk0-f46.google.com with SMTP id q16so299808bkw.33 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:54:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SVTL9xySQWra8F76rkKIaG90knrxYPBbN062WMGaoGc=; b=tMJXaTcBklRkhgY8KuV7u8GWPun5cRC7nGyx1cyzpViG3zxFIKkJMl+OK6D3uTLYMt 5IOw5tADLxCHFVRLDnjI1nHwTK4DS78wwPCKzJa3WiawlhdY6Q0jku/yYfGdwyG+fyue AlWB28r+2Wr4qGBGZYkjKTgCmwsVhcuGAyeyIw51KNBo0QcgjGb3p2KLFClo1dko9jbJ gRcrnAB3h7W+HYsLgC4CTtxJSUR7jXxWgsIxkv9h6ayOVPIMCJp7pPI149PEj1y5UB1P kh01xMXGNaxb8U8Za1dUuvfMt0igW0L6KvjPhhUimWtb+YTZgIRFrioN1iDatTARsQWe jo/A== X-Received: by 10.204.150.205 with SMTP id z13mr717646bkv.16.1355835271231; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (dustpuppy.is.co.za. [196.14.169.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r16sm1208215bkv.3.2012.12.18.04.54.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Dec 2012 04:54:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:50:51 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} open-source: chat, tasks, resources, code Message-ID: <20121218145051.097c4d65@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20121218123016.3ec9c220@marcec.hunte.us> References: <50CF44B4.2050107@orlitzky.com> <20121218031156.01923a71@khamul.example.com> <20121218123016.3ec9c220@marcec.hunte.us> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.14; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f1e11685-aedf-466a-870f-a98190540dab X-Archives-Hash: eb31b0f791c417d6ed883caa42757fbe On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 12:30:16 +0100 Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:04:46 -0800 > schrieb Grant : > > [...] > > > XMPP clients are a dime a dozen, take you pick: pidgin, kopete, > > > telepathy and a hots of others. > > > > > > Servers are another story. All of them that you can lay your > > > hands on seem to suck big eggs big time. ejabberd is the only one > > > I found stable enough to actually stay up for sane amounts of > > > time, and not DEPEND on java. > > > > > > But that info might be well out of date, I haven't looked at our > > > jabber server for ages. There's no need to - the techies all > > > gravitated by themselves over to GTalk and Skype, claiming that > > > the cloud services did everything they needed and more, and it > > > was there, and it worked. Our in-house jabber server - not so > > > much. > > > > > > Can't say I blame them. It's true. > > > > Thanks Alan, this is just the kind of info I need. It sounds like > > I would be better off with a cloud solution for collaborative chat. > > Just out of curiosity: why couldn't you use a Jabber client with > Bonjour/Zeroconf support (all or most of them?) within the company > (which is what this is for IIUC)? With Zeroconf, the Jabber clients > "find each other", then you wouldn't need to bother with setting up a > server. > > Or is Zeroconf problematic? I know Pidgin can do Zeroconf on Windows, > even if you need to manually install a separate package for it to > work. > That doesn't really work when one fellow is at his desk in the office, another at home on an ADSL connection and the third is a 3rd party dev based in Los Angeles. That's quite common for me. Zeroconf has it's uses, but it does have a rather narrow scope as to where it can work. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com