From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:46:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121217104621.735bf43a@khamul.example.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG2nJkNDLDp2hkz34XXEen4SO1_Mm18G8NNDMZK6tqDr+ddWtA@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:02:54 +0800
Mark David Dumlao <madumlao@gmail.com> wrote:
> > That was the original reason for having / and /usr separate, and it
> > dates back to the early 70s. The other reason that stems from that
> > time period is the size of disks we had back then - they were tiny
> > and often a minimal / was all that could really fit on the primary
> > system drive.
>
> I'm sorry, but I just can't let this one go. The reasons are
> backwards. The limitation in free space was the original reason [1]
> why / and /usr were separated. In fact, /usr was supposed to serve the
> same purpose as /home - it was originally a directory for users. It's
> only a quirk of history that served to keep most of the binaries in
> /usr when the home directories were moved elsewhere to /home.
>
> Long story short, Unix, too, has its share of old farts that are
> unwilling to embrace change at anything faster than a glacier's pace.
> Just ask the Plan 9 folks.
>
> [1]
> http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html
Well fair enough. This stuff is becoming more myth than fact as less
and less people are around to remember how it really went. There may
even have been to-ing and fro-ing moving bits around till Ken and
Dennis settled on the eventual outcome in that post.
Either way, we still agree. A separate /usr is, *for the most part*, a
tradition applied without much understanding of the reason (most
traditions are exactly like this). Most people do not actually need
it.
Some people do need it and can clearly state why; I am not in that
group.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
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2012-12-14 12:19 [gentoo-user] Anyone switched to eudev yet? Dale
2012-12-14 13:26 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-14 13:41 ` Dale
2012-12-14 14:04 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 14:25 ` Dale
2012-12-14 15:39 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 16:20 ` Tanstaafl
2012-12-14 17:34 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 19:02 ` Tanstaafl
2012-12-14 16:23 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-14 16:32 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 16:33 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-14 17:06 ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:52 ` Dale
2012-12-14 17:44 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 20:49 ` Dale
2012-12-14 15:01 ` [gentoo-user] " Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 15:48 ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:07 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 16:29 ` Dale
2012-12-14 16:53 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-14 17:14 ` Dale
2012-12-14 21:34 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-15 10:18 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-15 17:43 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-16 12:51 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-16 21:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-16 21:30 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 22:14 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-16 22:25 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2012-12-15 8:16 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 15:10 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-16 18:49 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-16 20:32 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-16 20:51 ` Dale
2012-12-17 0:26 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-17 5:44 ` Dale
2012-12-17 5:57 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-17 6:09 ` Dale
2012-12-17 6:24 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-17 6:44 ` Dale
2012-12-17 11:33 ` Kevin Chadwick
[not found] ` <CAA2qdGWkfmiQVAKb76wq57scQ-T5p2U7HE4VdN8BnTX0oZHS1g@mail.gmail.com>
2012-12-17 5:54 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-17 7:38 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17 7:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17 7:29 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-17 8:02 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-17 8:46 ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2012-12-18 11:44 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-18 12:55 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 13:34 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-18 22:02 ` Marc Joliet
2012-12-19 18:48 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 21:42 ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-18 14:08 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-18 14:33 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-18 22:55 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-18 23:07 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19 3:05 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-19 9:30 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 9:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19 10:14 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-19 9:26 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 15:03 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-23 10:22 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 16:20 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-23 17:03 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 17:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-12-23 17:44 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 17:53 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-23 18:06 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-23 20:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 1:27 ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-24 8:06 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 10:58 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 15:14 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-24 15:52 ` Dale
2012-12-24 23:09 ` William Kenworthy
2012-12-25 20:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 21:05 ` Dale
2012-12-26 21:35 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 23:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-25 11:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 15:10 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-24 15:20 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 19:43 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-27 19:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-27 20:07 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 20:14 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 6:55 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 12:58 ` Dale
2012-12-24 13:21 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 13:58 ` Dale
2012-12-24 15:06 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 15:27 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 15:56 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-24 16:00 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 16:11 ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:14 ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:34 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 17:02 ` Dale
2012-12-24 15:43 ` Dale
2012-12-24 16:29 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 17:00 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 12:10 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 12:46 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:22 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 16:40 ` Dale
2012-12-25 17:17 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 17:53 ` Dale
2012-12-25 18:54 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 22:49 ` Dale
2012-12-25 22:54 ` Paul Colquhoun
2012-12-25 23:12 ` Dale
2012-12-26 11:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-26 14:19 ` pk
2012-12-24 16:25 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 16:41 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 17:05 ` Dale
2012-12-24 17:15 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 18:58 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-25 1:54 ` Dale
2012-12-26 15:56 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 18:48 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-24 20:00 ` Dale
2012-12-24 20:15 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 21:23 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-24 22:36 ` Dale
2012-12-24 23:17 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 0:34 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 2:00 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 2:33 ` Dale
2012-12-25 21:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 21:42 ` Dale
2012-12-25 22:07 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-24 23:04 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 0:29 ` »Q«
2012-12-25 0:54 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 1:30 ` Dale
2012-12-25 2:13 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 16:51 ` Todd Goodman
2012-12-25 23:26 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 11:40 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-26 14:24 ` Todd Goodman
2012-12-26 17:03 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 17:22 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-26 20:34 ` Dale
2012-12-26 21:00 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 2:03 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 2:38 ` Dale
2012-12-25 12:58 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 16:01 ` Dale
2012-12-26 16:01 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-26 20:42 ` Dale
2012-12-27 3:23 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 16:13 ` Dale
2012-12-27 16:24 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-27 17:46 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:15 ` Dale
2012-12-27 18:31 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:41 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 19:02 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-27 22:29 ` Dale
2012-12-29 0:43 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-27 16:28 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 18:22 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 18:40 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 20:16 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-27 20:59 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 22:37 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-28 4:20 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-28 14:10 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-28 14:21 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-26 21:31 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-25 21:19 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 22:00 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 22:13 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-12-25 22:20 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 23:04 ` Dale
2012-12-25 23:10 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-25 23:56 ` Dale
2012-12-24 21:43 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-24 22:23 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 23:31 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-24 23:58 ` Dale
2012-12-25 0:44 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-24 22:52 ` Dale
2012-12-24 22:11 ` Daniel Wagener
2012-12-25 3:56 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 7:38 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? -> what was wron with SysVInit? G.Wolfe Woodbury
2012-12-25 8:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-25 11:14 ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2012-12-25 13:14 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-25 13:35 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-25 18:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 0:45 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-27 1:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 1:26 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 16:00 ` pk
2012-12-27 23:24 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 18:15 ` pk
2012-12-28 18:55 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-28 19:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 22:40 ` pk
2012-12-29 1:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 1:06 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-28 1:24 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:56 ` Joshua Murphy
2012-12-25 18:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 22:22 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-26 22:19 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-26 23:01 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 23:51 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-27 0:57 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 16:29 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 23:38 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 18:53 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-28 19:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-28 20:17 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-28 20:36 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-29 3:48 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-28 23:23 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-29 1:06 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 0:27 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-25 13:02 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? Bruce Hill
2012-12-25 13:18 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-25 15:01 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-25 23:31 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 0:19 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-26 2:16 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-26 3:24 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-26 17:13 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-26 18:47 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-12-27 23:07 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-01-04 23:22 ` Mike Edenfield
2013-01-05 2:41 ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-27 19:41 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 18:42 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-19 21:53 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-19 22:45 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-20 3:45 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-20 16:47 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-20 20:59 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-23 10:26 ` Nuno J. Silva
2012-12-20 21:01 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-20 21:46 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-21 0:09 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21 0:45 ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-21 8:28 ` Mark David Dumlao
2012-12-15 10:16 ` [gentoo-user] " pk
2012-12-14 16:17 ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-14 16:31 ` Dale
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