From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CEF1381F3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D93121C0F3; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8777221C035 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2012 17:13:20 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwKAG6Zu09MCpYE/2dsb2JhbABEsnYDgRiBCIIVAQEEATocHAwLCzQSFCU3iAkFugmLCFqBRII8YgOIQoR8h1yFX4g6gViDBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="209918545" Received: from 76-10-150-4.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([76.10.150.4]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2012 12:13:18 -0500 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:13:11 -0500 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:13:11 -0500 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Will ARM take over the world? Message-ID: <20121214171311.GA5651@waltdnes.org> References: <1372428.YfDgYWYQ2y@localhost> <20121213003358.GA1286@waltdnes.org> <5360528.EJExW5v6pg@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5360528.EJExW5v6pg@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: b086687b-7c0d-4655-a11f-4bb7c47bc2dc X-Archives-Hash: a50e31cea8cb495756f22c13151d5233 On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 07:29:21PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote > SLAX is using KDE4 - and uses 200mb. > > KDE is flexible. If you have lots of memory, it does use lots of > memory. If you don't it doesn't. So don't group it together with > 'lets force mono unto our users - for a notes application' gnome or > 'you can always add another 4gig' chrome. What about 'lets force dbus/libmpeg2/qt-webkit/phonon and a relational database on our users - for a pdf viewer'? I have a stripped-down no-nonsense install on all my machines with the USE variable beginning with "-*", and only necessary stuff being added. When xpdf was deprecated, one of the suggested alternatives was "okular". It requires qt3support, which in turn requires the "accessibility" USE flag. And qt-gui is required which requires the "dbus" flag. And oh yeah, I'd have to unmask dbus. And dee first dependancy requires dee second dependancy And dee second dependancy requires dee third dependancy And dee third dependancy requires dee fourth dependancy etc, etc, etc After unmasking dbus and adding a bunch of USE flags, I finally got rid of the emerge error messages... USE="accessibility dbus glib qt3support sqlite gstreamer" emerge -p okular Total: 59 packages (59 new), Size of downloads: 347,087 kB A stinking pdf viewer requires, amongst other things... libmpeg2 dbus desktop-file-utils strigi xdg-utils qt-webkit phonon and *A RELATIONAL DATABASE* (Hello!?!?), of which the lightest available is sqlite. Don't waste your time trying to convince me that KDE is lightweight. I run ICEWM. See my sig... -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications