From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E611381F3 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 05:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76A3221C00B; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 05:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0B9BE064F for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 05:05:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id t11so675292wey.40 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:05:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lWqA29rSfIzhewZ7BR4uoLsK2jrRs5o17K+pNZbXrJ0=; b=PPZyjtxTWAeZIVzZqced0jSvO6IJ3KuRpjmcmuaCHUwJKk9Brgt9OyhHHNiY2mJbbm SSY/qH7IRqek+V04aW/evSxhtQSybHadSXF3K2l7ShPGzhhFEzBV+9BSL6O8OC03STzS 7/nGoX9ffKupAufiUYwUESfETj/XwUWp1k0RIZXlyuE70QbtjMzZMGxsBeUGjh0mkq8Q MEDJIbn1TVxa+iYxQypMx1HT242kMGNG9tTm4wMaqrO0il9MOFDNX2TBFQ3rz5WjYpkg X+pKOJfWGMXGeJwXJyR4KD/X4pcSTKTwA/V3oZJ63R//GhSczT/uPT3ChKN1qYTUMYpn O4iw== Received: by 10.180.95.228 with SMTP id dn4mr810634wib.16.1355375139132; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-209-117.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.209.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dm3sm5963818wib.9.2012.12.12.21.05.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:05:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:02:12 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Will ARM take over the world? Message-ID: <20121213070212.5e2fa2c4@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20121212172602.GZ8486@server> References: <1372428.YfDgYWYQ2y@localhost> <20121210213826.7b3b411d@khamul.example.com> <20121210223728.74044462@khamul.example.com> <20121210232337.6a4dc251@khamul.example.com> <20121210234229.6a3dca66@khamul.example.com> <20121212172602.GZ8486@server> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5d02ad82-5759-4dba-868a-d25f13c8a53d X-Archives-Hash: 2b9e1dce0733e0cbcabf589e084b6cbb On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 11:26:02 -0600 Bruce Hill wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 05:05:30PM +0000, James wrote: > > > > Alan, one of the keenest reasons ARM is dominating > > NOW, is that in the early 1990 one person, helped > > many fledling embedded linux hacks get embedded > > linux running on many different flavors of ARM > > processors. > > > > RUSSELL is KING, and imho is the predominant > > reason today, a decade later, that ARM dominates > > the embedded space. Just look at the vintage > > embedded linux ports to hundreds of boards that > > mostly impoverished little companies built > > and ONE MAN stood in the gap for them all to > > realize their dreams: > > > > http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/ > > > > Intel and the rest wanted everyone to purchase expensive > > dev board, licensed embedded RTOSes, and binaries > > for most add on hardware. A prospect that precluded > > the little companies from fair competition. > > > > RUSSELL KING should be wealthy and on the Board > > of directors for ARM ltd. for his unselfish > > and heroic efforts! More than anyone else, he > > made arm-linux a doable for thousands of companies > > back when the embedded world did not think much > > of linux nor embedded linux. (I know I hacked on a > > few of those old projects).... > > > > Intel has nothing but a bunch of blood sucking > > lawyers and assholes that think they are better > > than the rest of us; and they shall fall! > > > > >From the Bible: "You reap what you sow"... > > My most sincerest hope is that we take the embedded > > gentoo efforts from the the embedded gentoo handbook, > > and integrate them into the regular Gentoo handbook. > > The distro that does this will be king of the distros! > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/ > > > > peace, > > James > > ack for Russell King +1 to that too. I'd also like to tip my hat to ARM itself - their licensing conditions to build cores seems very reasonable and a good deal for a manufacturer, all bases covered. It's nice to see a chip designer not falling into the intel trap of trying to rape every customer for every last cent they have! > > Wish my Samsung Galaxy S could have it's piece of crap Android system > replaced by arm-linux -- if not it will drive me back to an iPhone. > > Well, idk James, but his passion is great to read! -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com