From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A761381F4 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 08:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCFB3E02DF; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 08:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83AF9E068E for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 08:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id t11so766944wey.40 for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:06:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4Mnzw5xf6W9dAG923UILhrG2ZDZxeDC7yLDniBxBBmU=; b=0x1QIYbOJhfjd2Pjec6cf0e96/aejMmWoM4YoO2/e/QemtWH+JcBPpaYIu1pmqwt3J 9c/hX+I5i/Ps72PvyTAFclWMnAvwq02NvR8HyovWAxfphFxlRPhM8QnAJdYpyGqb3Mfu Y7YfWDRSAewAFtZZHN2SvV1stio2NKhu+m7QQKklNQwzJOBh7Jz1LVuKcuXjd/LqfzL3 JgGTY1H17/aShXSzWIQspgUURRIcTNWeX1cKhAEdkQ9ohLahpF5RcEUuk67FArv9jGwr 7CC3T/zeMRWoiW93H9rwYV/+voVP8At51FI/7l6w7+6RarF28AM1HqK2kA6k5kf8u9+o CJBQ== Received: by 10.180.84.101 with SMTP id x5mr5501747wiy.18.1355040400171; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:06:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-215-209-117.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.215.209.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ec3sm4985217wib.10.2012.12.09.00.06.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:06:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 10:03:22 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Will ARM take over the world? Message-ID: <20121209100322.009e6fe9@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8927ee2e-8ce4-40b8-bde2-00093228b360 X-Archives-Hash: 026607e26bd380166d536cc0b0418f17 On Sat, 8 Dec 2012 19:25:55 -0800 Grant wrote: > It seems like ARM processors will destroy x86 before too long. Does > anyone think this won't happen? > > - Grant Yes me. ARM will take over where it makes sense and won't where it doesn't. For desktops and laptops, x86 was used simply because there was nothing else, so x86 is going to have to fight for it's survival in the whole bottom and middle range there. x86 has already lost the fight in the portable market (phones, tablets) and truth be told never really got going there. For everything else, I don't see ARM making much inroads. There's a hug server market out there for things with computing grunt and the software that drives them - x86 isn't going away in that market anytime soon. But this is an old, old, old argument. People predicted the demise of mainframes for years when x86 started becoming a quite powerful cpu. The current truth is that IBM sell more mainframes year on year, growth is more than mere inflation can account for, and mainframes are just getting stronger. So x86 didn't kill the mainframe, instead x86 played a huge role in making both stronger. I see no reason to believe the same story won't play out exactly the same all over again between x86 and ARM. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com