From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD5D1381F3 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 00:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48669E0630; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 00:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E8E21C0E6 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 00:37:23 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsKAG6Zu09soXMY/2dsb2JhbABEsnYDgRiBCIIWAQU6HDMLNBIUJRABJogOugmLCBpAhABiA4hChHyHXIVfiDqBWIMH X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="208936311" Received: from 108-161-115-24.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([108.161.115.24]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 02 Dec 2012 19:37:22 -0500 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 02 Dec 2012 19:37:08 -0500 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 19:37:08 -0500 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] intel HD graphics 4000 and viewing DVDs Message-ID: <20121203003708.GB8895@waltdnes.org> References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 407c2d2b-6262-48d7-9290-6841eb8c5816 X-Archives-Hash: be9eb304a99591069cbc120f2e4dab46 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 04:10:30PM -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote > I am getting a new laptop. (likely dell 6430). > The two graphics options are intel HD 4000 and nvidia NVS 5200M. > Dell is as expected suggesting the 5200M. > > I do not need 3D or fast response. Dell hinted that DVDs might not play > with the intel HD 4000. This seems weird to me as the 4000 is supposed > to be a big improvement over the 3000 and I can't believe dell or others > would have sold laptops that can't play dvds > > Any comments or experiences? 2 personal experiences... 1) I have a Dell D530, over 4 years old, that could not keep up with the slowest feed of hockey games on NHLGameCenterLive. The feed runs via Flash. This was just after I had done a fresh install, and most of the system was lowest-common-denominator i686 code from the i686 install CD. After I ran "emerge system" and "emerge world", optimised with CFLAGS... CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe" ...the machine was able to keep up stutter-free on the low-speed feed. BTW, my current CFLAGS are... CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -fno-unwind-tables -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables" 2) I have an early ASUS Atom netbook, 2 gigs ram, with a Poulsbo GMA500. With the in-kernel GMA500 driver, it plays 720p HD from Youtube no problem. By setting "mem=1920mb" in the boot parameters, I now have it playing 1080p just fine even in Youtube's "large player", but not in fullscreen mode. If this old POS can play 1080p Youtube clips, a newer machine should easily be able to handle it. Additional comments... 1) Dell is probably thinking Windows built with lowest-common-denominator i686 code, running with full visual eye-candy. Yes, that would slow it down to a crawl. 2) Gentoo optimised to your machine has a huge advantage over any binary distro, be it Windows or linux. 3) I run ICEWM, a lightweight but powerful WM with minimal eye-candy. This allows the CPU and GPU to devote their power to doing stuff you really want/need. See my sig. 4) Use mplayer to play DVDs. It is much lighter than other popular linux players, and it can be optimised to your machine. My setup... [ebuild R ] media-video/mplayer-1.1-r1 USE="X a52 alsa dga encode gif iconv jpeg mmx mng mp3 opengl png quicktime rtmp sse sse2 ssse3 theora truetype vdpau vorbis win32codecs x264 xv xvid -3dnow -3dnowext -aalib (-altivec) (-aqua) -bidi -bindist -bl -bluray -bs2b -cddb -cdio -cdparanoia -cpudetection -debug -directfb -doc -dts -dv -dvb -dvd -dvdnav -dxr3 -enca -faac -faad -fbcon -ftp -ggi -gsm -ipv6 -jack -joystick -jpeg2k -ladspa -libass -libcaca -libmpeg2 -lirc -live -lzo -mad -md5sum -mmxext -nas -network -nut -openal -osdmenu -oss -pnm -pulseaudio -pvr -radio -rar -real -rtc -samba -sdl -shm -speex -tga -toolame -tremor -twolame -unicode -v4l -vidix -xanim -xinerama -xscreensaver -xvmc -zoran" VIDEO_CARDS="-mga -s3virge -tdfx" Note... do *NOT* blindly copy my flags. Select the ones appropriate to your CPU and GPU and playback/recording needs. -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications