From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going?
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 16:12:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121202161202.05923071@khamul.example.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ehj94k96.fsf@einstein.gmurray.org.uk>
On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:58:45 +0000
Graham Murray <graham@gmurray.org.uk> wrote:
> Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> writes:
>
> > --keep-going does not help you, if the emerge does not start
> > because of missing dep/slot conflict/blocking/masking whatever...
>
> Though it would be nice if there was some flag, probably mainly of use
> with either ' -u @world' or --resume, to tell portage to get on and
> merge what it can and leave any masked packages or those which would
> generate blockers or conflicts.
>
That is a terribly bad idea, and you need to have a fairly deep
understanding of IT theory to see it (which is why so few people see
it). I don't know which camp you are in.
The command is to emerge world, and it's supposed to be determinate,
i.e. when it's ready to start you can tell what it's going to do, and
that should be what you told it to do, no more and no less[1]
the command is
"emerge world"
not
"emerge the-bits-of-world-you-think-you-can-deal-with"
If portage cannot emerge world and fully obey what root told it to do,
then portage correctly refuses to continue. It could not possibly be
any other way, as eg all automated build tools (puppet, chef and
friends, even flameeyes's sandbox) break horribly if you do it any
other way. Life is hard enough dealing with build failures without
adding portage do somethign different to what it was told into the mix.
[1] "determinate" excludes build failures, as those are not predictable.
Dep graph failures happen before the meaty work begins.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-02 14:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-30 12:26 [gentoo-user] emerge --update : how to keep it going? Helmut Jarausch
2012-11-30 12:42 ` Francisco Ares
2012-11-30 12:43 ` Michael Mol
2012-11-30 12:46 ` Dale
2012-11-30 12:52 ` Yohan Pereira
2012-11-30 13:05 ` 2sb7vwu
2012-11-30 16:44 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-12-01 13:02 ` 2sb7vwu
2012-12-01 18:56 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-01 19:58 ` Graham Murray
2012-12-01 20:19 ` Mark Knecht
2012-12-01 20:30 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-02 14:12 ` Alan McKinnon [this message]
2012-12-02 14:58 ` kwkhui
2012-11-30 17:53 ` Keith Dart
2012-11-30 18:01 ` Helmut Jarausch
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