From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2191381F3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39B5F21C03D; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:38:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (82-69-83-178.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BE221C03D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:37:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from digimed.co.uk (yooden.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.6]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D5688049A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:37:08 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 09:37:03 +0000 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) Message-ID: <20121112093703.552345f8@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20121112052106.GA17663@server> References: <5547419.JtVDJ1Bk26@energy> <20121111132241.GU17663@server> <1524141.GPK41Ktrl4@gentoo> <20121112013321.64a4e1e0@khamul.example.com> <20121112010637.GW17663@server> <20121112035752.3d999f75@khamul.example.com> <20121112052106.GA17663@server> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1cvs117 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/8Bqa.tjZhoiftcRG/OMyfUj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: a26cff36-e57c-463a-ab9e-7011b949de5f X-Archives-Hash: f24891fb8ea1bddbbe3ac1560e3ba106 --Sig_/8Bqa.tjZhoiftcRG/OMyfUj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:21:06 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: > If we also stick to helping someone with their problem, and refrain from > replying about how bad or useless we think an app or ideal might be to > us, we could avoid flame wars. Unfortunately, there are times when it is necessary to point out how bad an idea is in order to help someone. Recent example: the suggestion to use dd to copy one drive to another with a different block size. While this may have worked for the person suggesting it, it is a bad idea in general and refraining from stating that could have resulted n problems for someone following that advice. Surely stating the merits or otherwise of an idea is a core element of discussion, and discussion is what this list is about. On the topic of swearing, some consider it "bad language", as you do, and I respect that view. Others consider it a means of expression (others seem to use it for punctuation, but no one is defending that). There are times that some words can add emotion or emphasis to a statement, especially when used rarely, but on a list like this there is generally little or no need for it. However, not all users of this list are native-English speakers and other cultures see use of such language different - one only has to look at the comments made on the podium of the Abu Dhabi F1 Grand Prix, made by professional drivers who are paid not to offend. --=20 Neil Bothwick And on the seventh day God said :wq and then make --Sig_/8Bqa.tjZhoiftcRG/OMyfUj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlCgw0MACgkQum4al0N1GQMv8QCg2Q8ehYTaJWdahnDzmButKMx1 5xkAni3H2ZWL95hTP5j+G/ffpi+lNEt0 =SGsH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/8Bqa.tjZhoiftcRG/OMyfUj--