From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93021381F3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FED621C042; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2E46C21C042 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:35:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id dr1so3080554wgb.10 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:35:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ewHoI/OejrwnGtTmPS7wB/PJ1vJQwrGF1Cpxh1zjMq0=; b=XWv8z4TKarfZuBJyzm99G3gZqPHVN8W08OvIhswTLsgnHxIshzfQJ1r/pbgk3VFTY7 9RV+CZpeWDdqyIoHvmFf0XLQAgW4sIpFPgUiitmgx5cs/U3NgAaXp/XUUXv6uQce2QJo mrgvvNikXO5bQR7c6Lf6kAED5yxKkIzkAydb74YH46ja+zZ/9mwKXBbCMQxnH0k4ynzS 8YRT482652u8cI6mbUPSyvaNdxPcZmqc25j7jJiTBPFhSlb7TmHIaOteDg++NJRpMzwO 2LmY0gd3QwQJe3o3JBzQaAwHX0jn4HeL/otKqqWAwrH93A2nt8mlArnNyyOCnrdUuXav fe5w== Received: by 10.180.93.234 with SMTP id cx10mr11631918wib.5.1352676944893; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:35:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from khamul.example.com (196-210-100-105.dynamic.isadsl.co.za. [196.210.100.105]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ei1sm9204933wid.7.2012.11.11.15.35.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:35:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:33:21 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) Message-ID: <20121112013321.64a4e1e0@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <1524141.GPK41Ktrl4@gentoo> References: <5547419.JtVDJ1Bk26@energy> <20121111132241.GU17663@server> <1524141.GPK41Ktrl4@gentoo> Organization: Internet Solutions X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 06360a0a-cbaf-459f-91a8-9d6313ace47e X-Archives-Hash: 7bba9c993023f55eef59e15b7fcf1547 On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:32:41 +0800 =E5=BE=AE=E8=94=A1 wrote: > =E5=9C=A8 2012=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8811=E6=97=A5 =E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E6=97=A5= 07:22:41=EF=BC=8CBruce Hill =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't > > > want is forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a > > > valid reaction. A lot of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or > > > systemd. Now it is forced on everybody. > > >=20 > > > When systemd devs took over udev, one was told that of course, > > > one could use udev without [systemd] in the future. > > >=20 > > > Now they are talking about making udev systemd only. >=20 > obsolutly nonsense. what they remove , is the ability to build udev=20 > seperately. udev can still be used without systemd. >=20 Say Dude,=20 I have a question (well, two actually) My name is Alan and I've been subscribed on this list for 7 years. What's your name, and how long have you been around? Just trying to establish your place in the pecking order in this here meritocracy. --=20 Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com